YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) I always find this interesting come draft season Astro’s Scouting The Scouts The Bills’ scouts have been busy this year. Since late August, they have been attending the games of dozens of teams. What games the scouts went to, how often they scouted each team, and where Brandon Beane and Ass’t. GM Joe Schoen have gone has been very telling. This year, I decided to go a few steps further, and analyzed video and box scores of each attended game. I’ve tried to guess which players might have caught the scouts’ eyes. http://billsmafia.com/2019/01/14/astros-scouting-scouts/ he only notes a few OL OT Jonah Williams C-OG Pierschbacher RD5-6 OT David Edwards RD1 tradedown Edited January 30, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I always find this interesting come draft season Astro’s Scouting The Scouts The Bills’ scouts have been busy this year. Since late August, they have been attending the games of dozens of teams. What games the scouts went to, how often they scouted each team, and where Brandon Beane and Ass’t. GM Joe Schoen have gone has been very telling. This year, I decided to go a few steps further, and analyzed video and box scores of each attended game. I’ve tried to guess which players might have caught the scouts’ eyes. http://billsmafia.com/2019/01/14/astros-scouting-scouts/ he only notes a few OL This is awesome. Any idea how accurate he is with his guesses at the projections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, PIZ said: This is awesome. Any idea how accurate he is with his guesses at the projections? He is usually really good with how many times they go to see specific schools - they saw Tre White play live 3x for example but we all thought that they were there to see Jamal Adams based on where they were drafting before they traded down. What threw me off big time last year was that they never went to see Josh Allen play live. Unless it was uncredentialed. They saw Darnold 2x and Beane and Schoen went to see Rudolph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Astro is great. Miss his knowledge on this board. Thank you for posting, @YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Astro is great. Miss his knowledge on this board. Thank you for posting, @YoloinOhio Yes, he does phenomenal work! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He is usually really good with how many times they go to see specific schools - they saw Tre White play live 3x for example but we all thought that they were there to see Jamal Adams based on where they were drafting before they traded down. What threw me off big time last year was that they never went to see Josh Allen play live. Unless it was uncredentialed. They saw Darnold 2x and Beane and Schoen went to see Rudolph. That's interesting. What are the details on uncredentialed visits? Is that legal per NFL rules or can teams do whatever they want in regards to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dpberr said: That's interesting. What are the details on uncredentialed visits? Is that legal per NFL rules or can teams do whatever they want in regards to that? It’s legal but the scouts need to buy a ticket and sit with the fans Edited January 30, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He is usually really good with how many times they go to see specific schools - they saw Tre White play live 3x for example but we all thought that they were there to see Jamal Adams based on where they were drafting before they traded down. What threw me off big time last year was that they never went to see Josh Allen play live. Unless it was uncredentialed. They saw Darnold 2x and Beane and Schoen went to see Rudolph. Didnt Beane talk about watching him live at a game and how JA was reacting on the sidelines with his teammates? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s legal but the scouts need to buy a ticket and sit with the fans I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure I read an interview where Beane talked about watching Allen play live and noting how he interacted with his team on the sidelines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Didnt Beane talk about watching him live at a game and how JA was reacting on the sidelines with his teammates? I believe you are right. Not only Beane, but Terry and Kim as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 57 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Didnt Beane talk about watching him live at a game and how JA was reacting on the sidelines with his teammates? He did, after the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He did, after the draft Right, but wouldnt that mean he did go see him uncredentialed then? Thats all I was saying Edit: you're post seemed to imply your werent sure if he did Edited January 30, 2019 by Bray Wyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Right, but wouldnt that mean he did go see him uncredentialed then? Thats all I was saying He could have, or Astro just missed it. He had one college scout at one game as i recall, but not Beane. My point was just that it’s not exact from a prediction standpoint - thinking if Beane didn’t see someone live he’s not going in the 1st. He could have seen him, unreported. Looking back they actually saw Darnold live 3x Edited January 30, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: He could have, or Astro just missed it. He had one college scout at one game as i recall, but not Beane. My point was just that it’s not exact from a prediction standpoint - thinking if Beane didn’t see someone live he’s not going in the 1st. He could have seen him, unreported. Gotcha, I edited my post as to clarify, it sounded like you werent sure if Beane had gone uncredentialed or not, I was just relaying the fact it seemed he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Not to be a doubting Thomas, but how do I really know that we scouted these games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 He also didn’t list all the guys the scouts watched at those games he has listed. He has them at the PSU/Iowa game but didn’t list Sanders. I was hoping the Bills would look at Sanders, unfortunately he didn’t impress in that game. Astro may have written this up before Sanders declared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, turftoe said: Not to be a doubting Thomas, but how do I really know that we scouted these games? College programs always report out who is there. There are CFB reporters like Chase Goodbread who tweet it out too. Astro follows it all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure I read an interview where Beane talked about watching Allen play live and noting how he interacted with his team on the sidelines Senior Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I know it's not just OL that we scouted, but in reference to the players mentioned, I wonder how this has changed post-senior bowl and knowing the likes of Risner and Lindstrom are now higher considerations. Especially with the former stating he could fit within the culture. Can't imagine our FO to be that narrow-minded that their board is more or less set at this point in the process, but I just hope the more recent demonstrations and examples outweigh the in-season hype for certain guys. Not as surprised to see Pierschbacher on there, and glad to see we're considering late round OL projections. But I also hope that this doesn't mean we're that high on Jonah still either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Wonder why Astro didn't think the Bills weren't scouting the Oklahoma linemen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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