NewEra Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: There is a lot of talk of a team like the Redskins trading up possibly with the Bills to get the QB of their choice. I'm thinking the QB market goes like this: Foles to Jacksonville Bridgewater to Miami Flacco to Miami Tannehill to Washington Haskins to NY Giants Lock to Denver With this a very possible scenario, I see the trade up being with Atlanta going up for a DT. Here is my first picks thru the Buffalo trade down Arizona - Nick Bosa San Francisco - Josh Allen NY Jets - Quentin Williams Oakland - Clelin Ferrell Tampa Bay - Greedy Williams NY Giants - Dwayne Haskins Jacksonville - Ed Oliver Detroit - Devin White Atlanta - Christian Wilkins Denver - Drew Lock Cincinnati - Kyler Murray Green Bay - Deonte Thompson Miami - Dexter Lawrence Buffalo - Dalton Risner Bills trade from 9 to 14 get Falcons 3rd and 4th Bills get a versatile guy with great leadership and position flexibility. Will allow the hopeful addition of T Darryl Williams to play RT and maybe a Quentin Spain or Reuben Foster to play G and keeping Jeff Boline for depth. Starting offensive line Dawkins Teller Risner Foster Williams, depth before round 2 of the draft is Bodine and Bottenger and possible Jordan Mills as swing T. Hopefully Bills look at WR in round 2, either Hakeem Butler, Deebo Samuels or DK Metcalf Round 3 - Picks 74 & 79 Round 4 - Picks 105, 110, 124 Round 5 - Picks 136 147 Of course picks 4th and later are affected by added compensatory choices to be determined. I would consider possibly trading both 3rds to move up in 2nd if Iowa TE Hockenson is available This also assumes we resign Jordan Phillips and add a WR in FA I’d prefer to try and trade down again from 14 to low 20s and hope to snag Risner there. The extra pick will allow us to grab our TE, RB and WR of the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Jacksonville is in cap hell, they aren't signing Foles. Flacco and Bridgewater aren't both going to Miami. If you follow the coaching dominoes with QBs, it wouldn't be shocking to see: Tannehill - Cincy - Zac Taylor was with Tannehill in Miami the first 4 years of his career. Andy Dalton - Washington - With Alex Smith's status very doubtful, Jay Gruden knows Dalton from their time together in Cincy Miami - A true wildcard, they could go QB early, they could bring Bridgewater to his hometown, or they could bring in Foles, a guy Brian Flores saw perform very well in the SB. Flacco - maybe he takes 1 year make good deal in Jacksonville? Like I said, the Jags cap situation is ugly, they may be forced into keeping Bortles and drafting a QB high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 how about left to right....trent brown / teller / paradis / miller / dawkins ( redo his contract to make him happy)...at today's price. draft: risner and lindstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Don't underestimate the lust of NFL teams that don't have one for a shiny new franchise QB. Yes, the failed retreads will be shuffled around, but that won't stop teams from looking for a brand new QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Bridgewater starting in Miami....so they really are planning to tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: There is a lot of talk of a team like the Redskins trading up possibly with the Bills to get the QB of their choice. I'm thinking the QB market goes like this: Foles to Jacksonville Bridgewater to Miami Flacco to Miami Tannehill to Washington Haskins to NY Giants Lock to Denver With this a very possible scenario, I see the trade up being with Atlanta going up for a DT. Here is my first picks thru the Buffalo trade down Arizona - Nick Bosa San Francisco - Josh Allen NY Jets - Quentin Williams Oakland - Clelin Ferrell Tampa Bay - Greedy Williams NY Giants - Dwayne Haskins Jacksonville - Ed Oliver Detroit - Devin White Atlanta - Christian Wilkins Denver - Drew Lock Cincinnati - Kyler Murray Green Bay - Deonte Thompson Miami - Dexter Lawrence Buffalo - Dalton Risner Bills trade from 9 to 14 get Falcons 3rd and 4th Bills get a versatile guy with great leadership and position flexibility. Will allow the hopeful addition of T Darryl Williams to play RT and maybe a Quentin Spain or Reuben Foster to play G and keeping Jeff Boline for depth. Starting offensive line Dawkins Teller Risner Foster Williams, depth before round 2 of the draft is Bodine and Bottenger and possible Jordan Mills as swing T. Hopefully Bills look at WR in round 2, either Hakeem Butler, Deebo Samuels or DK Metcalf Round 3 - Picks 74 & 79 Round 4 - Picks 105, 110, 124 Round 5 - Picks 136 147 Of course picks 4th and later are affected by added compensatory choices to be determined. I would consider possibly trading both 3rds to move up in 2nd if Iowa TE Hockenson is available This also assumes we resign Jordan Phillips and add a WR in FA I'm totally on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Jacksonville is in cap hell, they aren't signing Foles. Flacco and Bridgewater aren't both going to Miami. If you follow the coaching dominoes with QBs, it wouldn't be shocking to see: Tannehill - Cincy - Zac Taylor was with Tannehill in Miami the first 4 years of his career. Andy Dalton - Washington - With Alex Smith's status very doubtful, Jay Gruden knows Dalton from their time together in Cincy Miami - A true wildcard, they could go QB early, they could bring Bridgewater to his hometown, or they could bring in Foles, a guy Brian Flores saw perform very well in the SB. Flacco - maybe he takes 1 year make good deal in Jacksonville? Like I said, the Jags cap situation is ugly, they may be forced into keeping Bortles and drafting a QB high. Great feedback I didn't know the connection to Tannehill with the new Bengal HC. Jacksonville could be forced to either trade up ahead of the Giants or get 2nd QB drafted. See 3 or maybe 4 in first round, Haskins, Lock, Jones with Murray the wildcard. Foles may stay in Philly with all things considered and it's possible Bridgewater goes to Miami. Could see Dalton in Washington and that leaves Flacco. Where does he go when all the cards are shuffled? In any case to me a team coming up from behind us to get a QB is a very slight possibility. Broncos, Redskins and Dolphins all have established QB's and I assume Jones and Murray will still be their when they draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Jacksonville is in cap hell, they aren't signing Foles. Flacco and Bridgewater aren't both going to Miami. If you follow the coaching dominoes with QBs, it wouldn't be shocking to see: Tannehill - Cincy - Zac Taylor was with Tannehill in Miami the first 4 years of his career. Andy Dalton - Washington - With Alex Smith's status very doubtful, Jay Gruden knows Dalton from their time together in Cincy Miami - A true wildcard, they could go QB early, they could bring Bridgewater to his hometown, or they could bring in Foles, a guy Brian Flores saw perform very well in the SB. Flacco - maybe he takes 1 year make good deal in Jacksonville? Like I said, the Jags cap situation is ugly, they may be forced into keeping Bortles and drafting a QB high. jacksonville trade for carr . they cut a couple of high priced defensive guys....offer future picks and or move a ways down in the 1st rd. flacco goes to washington. redskins take a project qb later. tannehil stays in miami...maybe they would rather use the picks to build around him. maybe they bring over bortles. dalton stays in cincy but, cincy tries to be a player for lock or jones. foles goes to denver. don't see him in his current division or the nfc. oakland rides with a.j. mccarron. maybe bring in brigewater. i think gruden will want to take a couple of years to build from the inside out. Edited January 25, 2019 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said: jacksonville trade for carr . they cut a couple of high priced defensive guys....offer future picks and or move a ways down in the 1st rd. flacco goes to washington. redskins take a project qb later. tannehil stays in miami...maybe they would rather use the picks to build around him. dalton stays in cincy but, cincy tries to be a player for lock or jones. foles goes to denver. don't see him in his current division or the nfc. oakland rides with a.j. mccarron. maybe bring in brigewater. i think gruden will want to take a couple of years to build from the inside out. I think the Carr to Jacksonville may be possible but with their hideous cap situation I honestly can't see it. The Carr contract is done, the Raiders can live with him and start to build their team with all the draft capital they have. Bills must be major players in free agency on the offensive side of the ball to set-up the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, RPbillsfan said: I think the Carr to Jacksonville may be possible but with their hideous cap situation I honestly can't see it. The Carr contract is done, the Raiders can live with him and start to build their team with all the draft capital they have. Bills must be major players in free agency on the offensive side of the ball to set-up the draft i smell trouble between chucky and carr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 54 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: The draft value chart shows the 9th pick at 1350 points, the 14th pick at 1100 points, Atlanta's choice in the 2nd round is worth 400 points. The Bills in a deep draft could do very well with 5 picks total in rounds 3 & 4 and could dangle some of them to move back up into the 2nd round. The draft value chart pretty much got blown up last year. It's still a guideline that they seemed to use outside of the top of the draft. But remember the Jets paid 3 second rounders to move up and pick Darnold. That was extream over payment and the Giants were supposedly asking for the farm from Buffalo. I can't see them trading out of the top 10 for 3rd and 4th rounders. Tampa went from 7th to 12th for 2 second rounders, which everyone was saying is market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBacks Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: There is a lot of talk of a team like the Redskins trading up possibly with the Bills to get the QB of their choice. I'm thinking the QB market goes like this: Foles to Jacksonville Bridgewater to Miami Flacco to Miami Tannehill to Washington Haskins to NY Giants Lock to Denver With this a very possible scenario, I see the trade up being with Atlanta going up for a DT. Here is my first picks thru the Buffalo trade down Arizona - Nick Bosa San Francisco - Josh Allen NY Jets - Quentin Williams Oakland - Clelin Ferrell Tampa Bay - Greedy Williams NY Giants - Dwayne Haskins Jacksonville - Ed Oliver Detroit - Devin White Atlanta - Christian Wilkins Denver - Drew Lock Cincinnati - Kyler Murray Green Bay - Deonte Thompson Miami - Dexter Lawrence Buffalo - Dalton Risner Bills trade from 9 to 14 get Falcons 3rd and 4th Bills get a versatile guy with great leadership and position flexibility. Will allow the hopeful addition of T Darryl Williams to play RT and maybe a Quentin Spain or Reuben Foster to play G and keeping Jeff Boline for depth. Starting offensive line Dawkins Teller Risner Foster Williams, depth before round 2 of the draft is Bodine and Bottenger and possible Jordan Mills as swing T. Hopefully Bills look at WR in round 2, either Hakeem Butler, Deebo Samuels or DK Metcalf Round 3 - Picks 74 & 79 Round 4 - Picks 105, 110, 124 Round 5 - Picks 136 147 Of course picks 4th and later are affected by added compensatory choices to be determined. I would consider possibly trading both 3rds to move up in 2nd if Iowa TE Hockenson is available This also assumes we resign Jordan Phillips and add a WR in FA I would love to get Risner in the 1st and Samuels in the 2nd. I don't think he will make it though. I could see Oakland grabbing him with one of their picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: There is a lot of talk of a team like the Redskins trading up possibly with the Bills to get the QB of their choice. I'm thinking the QB market goes like this: Foles to Jacksonville Bridgewater to Miami Flacco to Miami Tannehill to Washington Haskins to NY Giants Lock to Denver With this a very possible scenario, I see the trade up being with Atlanta going up for a DT. Here is my first picks thru the Buffalo trade down Arizona - Nick Bosa San Francisco - Josh Allen NY Jets - Quentin Williams Oakland - Clelin Ferrell Tampa Bay - Greedy Williams NY Giants - Dwayne Haskins Jacksonville - Ed Oliver Detroit - Devin White Atlanta - Christian Wilkins Denver - Drew Lock Cincinnati - Kyler Murray Green Bay - Deonte Thompson Miami - Dexter Lawrence Buffalo - Dalton Risner Bills trade from 9 to 14 get Falcons 3rd and 4th Bills get a versatile guy with great leadership and position flexibility. Will allow the hopeful addition of T Darryl Williams to play RT and maybe a Quentin Spain or Reuben Foster to play G and keeping Jeff Boline for depth. Starting offensive line Dawkins Teller Risner Foster Williams, depth before round 2 of the draft is Bodine and Bottenger and possible Jordan Mills as swing T. Hopefully Bills look at WR in round 2, either Hakeem Butler, Deebo Samuels or DK Metcalf Round 3 - Picks 74 & 79 Round 4 - Picks 105, 110, 124 Round 5 - Picks 136 147 Of course picks 4th and later are affected by added compensatory choices to be determined. I would consider possibly trading both 3rds to move up in 2nd if Iowa TE Hockenson is available This also assumes we resign Jordan Phillips and add a WR in FA nice effort. my two bits: Daniel Jones (QB) will go in the top 14. Rashaan Gary will also go in the top 14. While I like Risner, I think #14 is too high for him. I would rather have Jawaan Taylor or Cody Ford at #14. Jacksonville is already in cap hell. How do they afford Foles? In other words, they have to make some moves, restructure things etc. before even thinking about getting Foles. Notwithstanding the above, I do agree we will trade down albeit because of a team wanting a QB, not DL - there are just so many good ones (DL) in this draft. Edited January 25, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Who’s Ruben Foster and Jeff Boline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Who’s Ruben Foster and Jeff Boline? And for that matter, who is Quentin Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, mannc said: And for that matter, who is Quentin Williams? Just a weird pet peeve of mine lol. I can’t take people and their mocks serious if they don’t even know the players names. Throws all their credibility out the window. Edited January 25, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Just a weird pet peeve of mine lol. I can’t take people and their mocks serious if they don’t even know the players names. Throws all their credibility out the window. My favorite is the guys who insist that that “Mahommes” guy wouldn’t be any good if we had drafted him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Do Jacksonville have the cap space to outbid the other QB needy teams? Foles will probably get Cousins type money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 This is very.....specific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Introducing Logic to the draft is illogical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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