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New York State abortion bill now allows babies, At any point of pregnancy, to be aborted

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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

I couldn't get past the "if a pregnant women was pregnant" part. Twins maybe?

 

Really?  Not "If a pregnant woman has a baby, she has the right to terminate her pregnancy?"  That is an unholy mess of mismatched vocabulary and verb tense (if a pregnant woman "has a baby," the pregnancy is already terminated by the birth of the baby.  :wallbash:)

 

He just packed so much stupid in to so few words.  Watching him try to use the English language is like watching a sea otter use an impact wrench.  A never-ending source of multi-faceted Kafkaesque whatthe*****ery.

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14 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

So the answer to the question is yes. You just hide behind a woman's "right to choose." 

So you would force her to have the baby, huh? Yup, that's pretty much why women don't want people like you making their reproductive decisions. You can't even approach the topic in a slightly honest way. Sad. 

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14 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

So the answer to the question is yes. You just hide behind a woman's "right to choose." 

I don't think he grasps by saying "right to choose" is admitting he's fine with abortion if down syndrome is detected.  I'm fine with it as long as it's within the first 20 weeks.

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13 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

The part where you admit a woman has the right to kill a baby.

 

Looks like Tibs is a supporter of eugenics.

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1 minute ago, KRC said:

 

Looks like Tibs is a supporter of eugenics.

Nope, just don't support Big Brother controlling a woman's uterus. 

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39 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, just don't support Big Brother controlling a woman's uterus. 

It's the only thing you don't support Big Brother controlling.

 

Makes me think you have one.

 

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2 hours ago, KRC said:

 

Looks like Tibs is a supporter of eugenics.

I believe that is spelled huge eunuchs.

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World's smallest newborn who weighed same as an APPLE survives birth...

 

She was born 23 weeks and three days into her mother's 40-week pregnancy.

 

Doctors told her distraught mom and dad after the birth that they would only have about an hour with their girl before she died.

 

More than five months have passed since the birth - and little Saybie has gone home as a healthy 5lb infant.

 

The baby's family gave permission to share the story but wanted to stay anonymous, the hospital said.

 

 

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Abortion issue has sadly morphed into infanticide.

 

 

THE ABORTION QUAGMIRE

 

The Supreme Court’s decision constitutionalizing the alleged right to abortion in Roe v. Wade(1973) was about as bad as it gets. Expressing the Court’s sheer will to power, it is one of the worst decisions in the history of the Supreme Court.

 

The principled liberal law professor John Hart Ely called out the Court in the classic Yale Law Journal comment “The Wages of Crying Wolf.” Professor Ely condemned Roe as “a very bad decision. Not because it will perceptibly weaken the Court-it won’t; and not because it conflicts with either my idea of progress or what the evidence suggests is society’s-it doesn’t. It is bad because it is bad constitutional law, or rather because it is not constitutional law and gives almost no sense of an obligation to try to be'” (footnote omitted).

 

Yet Roe lives on. Indeed, the Court continued in this mode — seizing from state legislatures the power that properly belongs to them — as long as Justice Kennedy was around to develop his jurisprudence à la Walt Whitman and Song of Myself: “I and this mystery here we stand.” If the Supreme Court is ever to climb down from this particular ledge, it is sure to do so in some incremental fashion.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, just don't support Big Brother controlling a woman's uterus. 

No, you are a supporter of eugenics and thus a person in line with Adolf Hitler's philosophy. Think about that. You are supporting a philosophy that would have prevented your own birth, or if you were born by chance, would execute you. Actually, you personally make a very solid case for eugenics, or 100 trimester abortion.

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1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

No, you are a supporter of eugenics and thus a person in line with Adolf Hitler's philosophy. Think about that. You are supporting a philosophy that would have prevented your own birth, or if you were born by chance, would execute you. Actually, you personally make a very solid case for eugenics, or 100 trimester abortion.

When you have to tell people that they are supporters of something, that means you don't have a point and are clutching at straws because you have nothing. 

 

 

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Planned Parenthood’s false stat: ‘Thousands’ of women died every year before Roe

Washington Post, by Glenn Kessler

Original Article

 

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Wen’s repeated use of this number reminds us of the shoddy data used by human trafficking opponents. Unsafe abortion is certainly a serious issue, especially in countries with inadequate medical facilities. But advocates hurt their cause when they use figures that do not withstand scrutiny. These numbers were debunked in 1969 — 50 years ago — by a statistician celebrated by Planned Parenthood. There’s no reason to use them today.

 

 

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

When you have to tell people that they are supporters of something, that means you don't have a point and are clutching at straws because you have nothing. 

 

 

 

Isn't that your entire posting history? Doing just that?

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2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

World's smallest newborn who weighed same as an APPLE survives birth...

 

She was born 23 weeks and three days into her mother's 40-week pregnancy.

 

Doctors told her distraught mom and dad after the birth that they would only have about an hour with their girl before she died.

 

More than five months have passed since the birth - and little Saybie has gone home as a healthy 5lb infant.

 

The baby's family gave permission to share the story but wanted to stay anonymous, the hospital said.

 

 

 

IPad, or IPod nano? 

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30 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

When you have to tell people that they are supporters of something, that means you don't have a point and are clutching at straws because you have nothing. 

 

 

OK HAHA Gator, you are supporting aborting babies based on a specific condition of the baby that has nothing to do with the mother's health. You've actually gone further than eugenics in that you aren't proposing selective breeding but selective killing.

 

The one question left to be asked is if you laugh when the baby comes out in pieces?

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31 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

OK HAHA Gator, you are supporting aborting babies based on a specific condition of the baby that has nothing to do with the mother's health. You've actually gone further than eugenics in that you aren't proposing selective breeding but selective killing.

 

The one question left to be asked is if you laugh when the baby comes out in pieces?

Yup, the mother doesn't want it, it's her choice. 

 

The courts have agreed 

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https://hotair.com/archives/2019/05/28/kamala-harris-pro-life-states-need-preclearance-doj-pass-anti-abortion-laws/

Kamala Harris: Pro-Life States Should Need “Preclearance” From The DOJ To Pass Anti-Abortion Laws

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since important articles were buried on the last page by childish replies I will repost here

 

 

THE ABORTION QUAGMIRE

 

 

Planned Parenthood’s false stat: ‘Thousands’ of women died every year before Roe

Original Article

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7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, still up to the women 

So, you support abortion for any reason at any point in time? How about a failed abortion, one in which the baby is born alive? Would you kill that baby?

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