bigK14094 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, PS 56 said: Martin is a man with serious emotional issues. I hope he can get help to put his life on track. Richie has issues also. Putting those two together in Miami wasn't good calculus by the team management. Edited January 17, 2019 by bigK14094 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Not being insensitive to the "bullying" issue by any means because my father-in-law's 13 year old granddaughter committed suicide about 3 weeks ago due to it, but it's hard for me to take a bullying claim seriously when the guy getting "bullied" was 6'6" and 315lbs. I think he had mental issues from the jump and it contributed to how things have played out. Was Richie a dick? Yes, yes indeed. He's crazy as a mofo himself. Did he probably aid to Martin's mental instability? Most likely. This whole thing has been like an after school special on the effects of being Bipolar in today's society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Jeez. You just don't know about folks, do you? This seems very disturbing. I wonder how RI found out; does he follow Martin on Instagram? That, too, would be creepy - to follow someone you allegedly bullied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, H2o said: Not being insensitive to the "bullying" issue by any means because my father-in-law's 13 year old granddaughter committed suicide about 3 weeks ago due to it, but it's hard for me to take a bullying claim seriously when the guy getting "bullied" was 6'6" and 315lbs. I think he had mental issues from the jump and it contributed to how things have played out. Was Richie a dick? Yes, yes indeed. He's crazy as a mofo himself. Did he probably aid to Martin's mental instability? Most likely. This whole thing has been like an after school special on the effects of being Bipolar in today's society. I'm sure Richie wasn't the only one (especially with Pouncey in the same locker room), just the loudest / most frequent. I don't see how a few 6'~6" 315 lbs guys ganging up on another 6'6" 315 pound guy is any different than a group of 5'6" 135 lbs guys ganging up on one 5'6" 135 lbs guy. But yes, I agree with you that Martin certainly has his own demons and various degrees of "bullying" (not to minimize bullying, but one person's "joking around" is another's bullying) typically happens with any group of young guys. Edited January 17, 2019 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Richie has issues also. Putting those two together in Miami wasn't good calculus by the team management. This is sad all the way around. BigK, can you imagine if Richie had stayed a Bill during his first time around and Buffalo drafted Martin instead of Glenn?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Duke gets anyone they want in. Those are good schools but I in terms of good their academics and sports are and what the standards they hold their athletes to, I would say Stanford has the best student athletes in the country at the D1 level. Depends on the sport and whether kids can play. A good friend of my son's (who is an elite baseball player) had offers from Duke, Vandy, and Stanford, but because the latter two had made offers to a ridiculous number of pitchers (not good for him), he chose Duke. In football, I'm sure Duke and Northwestern tell good players that their chances of playing are going to be higher at those places than Stanford. As for academic quality, they're all roughly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 It's like "No Country for Old Men" but in this case, Richie didn't steal a briefcase of cash....Richie stole Martin's dignity and now it's a cat and mouse game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 they really need to put richie and martin into the thunderdome to hash this out. two men enter...one man leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: they really need to put richie and martin into the thunderdome to hash this out. two men enter...one man leaves. weapons or just the fists the Good Lord made them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I'm sure Richie wasn't the only one (especially with Pouncey in the same locker room), just the loudest / most frequent. I don't see how a few 6'~6" 315 lbs guys ganging up on another 6'6" 315 pound guy is any different than a group of 5'6" 135 lbs guys ganging up on one 5'6" 135 lbs guy. But yes, I agree with you that Martin certainly has his own demons and various degrees of "bullying" (not to minimize bullying, but one person's "joking around" is another's bullying) typically happens with any group of young guys. Don't see the difference? They are MEN not teens or boys. His momma is a lawyer wasn't she? And the NFL, while certainly not fully transparent by any means, is still quite a public place with a spotlight on it 80% of the times, including most practices, journalists in the locker room, etc. And you can actually request a trade and still work in the NFL, at your craft. Unlike in most work places or schools. Big differences to me indeed. The main question here if this story is true: how come we know this, and how come RI knows this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, teef said: they really need to put richie and martin into the thunderdome to hash this out. two men enter...one man leaves. Now THIS is a PPV I would pay to see. Forget Tiger vs Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 living la vida loca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Búfalo Blanco said: It should have been Taco Bell, then Trump could've charged Mexico for it. Taco Bell... The best and cheapest weight-loss program available ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) It says in the story "Incognito was so freaked out when he learned about the post on Feb. 22, he hopped in a car with his dad, brother and dog and drove north from Scottsdale, Arizona, for two hours to meet an FBI agent at a safe house" Didn't I read on here of Richie losing his mind at his father's funeral last offseason? Or do I need to get checked in as well? Edit: Ha! I now realize it was on Feb 22, so before his dad died. How come it only makes the news now? Edited January 17, 2019 by Jerome007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 How is it that this old, seemingly done story just keeps on getting worse with time? Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Two Jello heads, nothing surprises me with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, bigK14094 said: Richie has issues also. Putting those two together in Miami wasn't good calculus by the team management. The Dolphin's management team was just trying to put together a football team I am pretty sure they weren't aware both these guys were that volatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swill Merchant Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 For whatever faults RI may have, and he clearly has many, I have always thought he got a raw deal as it pertains to Jonathan Martin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 no concern about being arrested for posting an instagram, huh? they really are winning aren't they..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 In an article in today's LA Times, the incident that triggered police involvement was a post showing a gun and a photo of Martin's high school, the very elite Harvard-Westlake Prep, and a message that appeared to be a threat of violence which led to a school shut down. In addition, Martin focused his anger on Mike Pouncey. There was no mention of RI in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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