Turk71 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: Was it at least Five Guys? It was hamberders from McDernolds Wemdys and BergderKings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: Maybe they were lovers? Well, this would certainly be a hell of a plot twist. This would be the greatest 30 for 30 ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Gugny said: More like a 51-50. 1 short for 2 short? Edited January 17, 2019 by BringBackFlutie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Wow ... crazy story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Wasn’t Martin like some Stanford educated guy with doctors as parents? Surprised he just went off the deep end like this apparently Mental health issues do not recognize borders such as this. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, Augie said: Mental health issues do not recognize borders such as this. But rich and/ or successful people shouldn’t get depressed!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 https://deadspin.com/the-messages-from-jonathan-martin-to-his-parents-are-he-1522865373. Martin was extremely depressed from being bullied throughout his life evidently. Such a big guy was bullied by kids half his size but never stood up to anyone. Richie really got inside his head. Strange to me that such a sensitive guy like Martin ended up being a pro football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: But rich and/ or successful people shouldn’t get depressed!!! I get a kick out of many people here who put money on such a high pedestal. I mean, I’m a big fan, don’t get me wrong!!! But it really doesn’t guarantee happiness. Some people here seem to resent those who have done well financially. “You’ve got your millions! Who are you to complain! Suck it up!” We have no idea what their lives are like or how heavy their burdens are, regardless of net worth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: https://deadspin.com/the-messages-from-jonathan-martin-to-his-parents-are-he-1522865373. Martin was extremely depressed from being bullied throughout his life evidently. Such a big guy was bullied by kids half his size but never stood up to anyone. Richie really got inside his head. Strange to me that such a sensitive guy like Martin ended up being a pro football player. Huh? I played football with guys like RI and Martin. That’s what I loved about football was it takes so many different types of guys to make a successful team. and I’m going to really shock you. They are gay guys who play as well!!!! ? 1 minute ago, Augie said: I get a kick out of many people here who put money on such a high pedestal. I mean, I’m a big fan, don’t get me wrong!!! But it really doesn’t guarantee happiness. Some people here seem to resent those who have done well financially. “You’ve got your millions! Who are you to complain! Suck it up!” We have no idea what their lives are like or how heavy their burdens are, regardless of net worth. Remember TO’s agent after there may have been a suicide attempt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Huh? I played football with guys like RI and Martin. That’s what I loved about football was it takes so many different types of guys to make a successful team. and I’m going to really shock you. They are gay guys who play as well!!!! ? Remember TO’s agent after there may have been a suicide attempt? Actually, I’m surprised that I don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, Augie said: Actually, I’m surprised that I don’t. He's got x million reasons to live! Forget the exact number. Total nonsense. Poverty can create misery but money can not buy happiness. That's how I view it anyways. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: He's got x million reasons to live! Forget the exact number. Total nonsense. Poverty can create misery but money can not buy happiness. That's how I view it anyways. 25 I think was that rosenhaus? Edited January 17, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Turk71 said: https://deadspin.com/the-messages-from-jonathan-martin-to-his-parents-are-he-1522865373. Martin was extremely depressed from being bullied throughout his life evidently. Such a big guy was bullied by kids half his size but never stood up to anyone. Richie really got inside his head. Strange to me that such a sensitive guy like Martin ended up being a pro football player. I thought there was a fair amount of commentary from JM during the time preceding the Wells report. I don't really care enough to look, but I thought part of Incognitos complaint back was the stuff that went back and forth. And, honestly, it seems that this guy had some long simmering issues going back just about as far as he goes back in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Augie said: Actually, I’m surprised that I don’t. http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2604395 "Terrell has 25 million reasons why he should be alive."-- Kim Etheredge, Owens' publicist Just now, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I thought there was a fair amount of commentary from JM during the time preceding the Wells report. I don't really care enough to look, but I thought part of Incognitos complaint back was the stuff that went back and forth. And, honestly, it seems that this guy had some long simmering issues going back just about as far as he goes back in life. So did RI. Martin has his own stuff going on. But RI is also the guy who doesn’t know when to stop as evidence by most of his life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Huh? I played football with guys like RI and Martin. That’s what I loved about football was it takes so many different types of guys to make a successful team. and I’m going to really shock you. They are gay guys who play as well!!!! ? I understand that, I played on teams in multiple sports for many years. What seems strange is that he would make it all the way to the pros being bullied and never learning to stand up for himself. It wouldn't shock me at all if Richie was gay.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I thought there was a fair amount of commentary from JM during the time preceding the Wells report. I don't really care enough to look, but I thought part of Incognitos complaint back was the stuff that went back and forth. And, honestly, it seems that this guy had some long simmering issues going back just about as far as he goes back in life. If I recall accurately I think part of RI’s defense was that he had issues since HS and it wasn’t because of his “bullying” in Miami Edited January 17, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2604395 "Terrell has 25 million reasons why he should be alive."-- Kim Etheredge, Owens' publicist So did RI. Martin has his own stuff going on. But RI is also the guy who doesn’t know when to stop as evidence by most of his life. I'm not disputing that, nor am I suggesting anything about Incognito. I read the text messages that were linked to the post, and they painted a picture that was different than what I had read. Just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I'm not disputing that, nor am I suggesting anything about Incognito. I read the text messages that were linked to the post, and they painted a picture that was different than what I had read. Just an observation. And you’re not wrong. Martin was from a different football world. Guys from Stanford are proud that they are nerds. Andrew Luck runs a book club. Martin probably never dealt with a guy like RI. I know guys like RI (who has his own mental health issues) who are don’t stop. Just oil and water. Lookkng back, it’s actually kinda amazing RI kept it together in Buffalo for so long. 11 minutes ago, Turk71 said: I understand that, I played on teams in multiple sports for many years. What seems strange is that he would make it all the way to the pros being bullied and never learning to stand up for himself. It wouldn't shock me at all if Richie was gay.? I think Martin’s high school was like one of the best in California and Stanford is completely different than every other D 1 school. It’s basically an Ivy League school where a lot guys are going because it’s not just about making it to the nfl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 If this went to court, I would pay to watch that trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 25 I think was that rosenhaus? OK, now that DOES sound familiar. Thx Rosenhaus, you.....never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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