formerlyofCtown Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I tend to look at rivalries in terms of the entire team. Josh Allen is the Quarterback of the team for now and the foreseeable future, but I'm not basing rivalries off one guy who may or may not be the long term answer. We all certainly hope he is, but there is no rivalry as of now. We have to win something to earn a rival. If you mean to be their RivalI agree. I dont view the Jets as a Rival or the Jets. I view the Pats as a hated Rival, but from their prospective we probably arnt a Rival merly a punchline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I tend to look at rivalries in terms of the entire team. Josh Allen is the Quarterback of the team for now and the foreseeable future, but I'm not basing rivalries off one guy who may or may not be the long term answer. We all certainly hope he is, but there is no rivalry as of now. We have to win something to earn a rival. Lol I guess in reality Our Rivals would be anyone going for a top 10 pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Living about 90 min from the outskirts of Pittsburgh and roughly the same from orchard park here in Erie, Pa, makes the every 3 year game they play pretty chippy around here. You either love the “Stiller’s” around here or you HATE them because you have to deal with their self absorbed, holier than thou fan base. The whole lot of them act as though they as fans are gracing the nfl and the rest of the nation with their presence..... so losing to them consistently every 3 years for about 15 years now has got me and any other bills fans I know around here fairly cranky on the matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: At this point, the Bills have no rivals as the term "rival" is currently used. Not being snarky, but how is the term rival currently used in your opinion? To me it comes down to when a non-descript game has more meaning: - all divisional matchups are rivalries. The great divisional rivalries include two teams that slug it out for the division over a few years (i.e - Steelers/Ravens). - conference matchups for two teams that slug it out for the conference over a few years (i.e - Giants or Cowboys vs. 49ers back when we couldn't seal the deal). - regional rivalries. Probably more of a baseball thing but Jets/Giants for one and maybe 49ers/Raiders too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 The Bills only have 2 current rivalries. The Jets and Jax. Those games always get chippy with a scuffle spot here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Its gotta be Carolina. It's like an intra-squad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Gugny said: They've played two meaningful games in 20 years. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, row_33 said: And? And that's not how rivalries are born. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Gugny said: They've played two meaningful games in 20 years. ...and almost a dozen Jags fans showed up! To be fair, that’s each game, not combined. I’d hate to shortchange that little crew of diehards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 The Bills haven’t been competitive enough to have rivals. Winning just enough to play the third or fourth best team in another division hardly qualifies as must see. Out of conference is nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 hours ago, SinceThe70s said: Not being snarky, but how is the term rival currently used in your opinion? To me it comes down to when a non-descript game has more meaning: - all divisional matchups are rivalries. The great divisional rivalries include two teams that slug it out for the division over a few years (i.e - Steelers/Ravens). - conference matchups for two teams that slug it out for the conference over a few years (i.e - Giants or Cowboys vs. 49ers back when we couldn't seal the deal). - regional rivalries. Probably more of a baseball thing but Jets/Giants for one and maybe 49ers/Raiders too. As a baseline, the opponent has to see you as a rival too. "Rivalry" conveys an antagonistic partnership, but a partnership nonetheless. No team in the NFL sees the Bills as a rival. Rather, they see the franchise as a longtime doormat and regard games against them as the ones they should probably win. When they lose to the Bills, such franchises are likely to regard it as a sign of their own weakness as a team. Cardinals-Cubs this ain't. Frankly, Wilson made a big mistake years ago when he held up the Miami rivalry as a reason to avoid joining a great lakes/rust belt division when realignment happened. No one in Miami cares about the Bills, and the franchise doesn't see Buffalo as a rival. They hate the Jets and Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Gugny said: They've played two meaningful games in 20 years. and losing those meaningful games IS what matters. 8 hours ago, row_33 said: And? 8 hours ago, Gugny said: And that's not how rivalries are born. oh... never mind lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I will never be able to see enough wins against the Giants, 'Skins & Cowboys, regardless of whether or not they are "rivals" in the sense that it's an always competitive game or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I will never be able to see enough wins against the Giants, 'Skins & Cowboys, regardless of whether or not they are "rivals" in the sense that it's an always competitive game or not. the Giants don't bother me as much. I guess its watching them on TV as a Kid (beyond the Bills). the Skins & Cowboys however ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 16 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Living in Houston, I've met a lot of Oilers fans still salty about the Comeback. Even if we ignore that they're technically two separate franchises, that's more of a one way thing, as I don't think the Bills or our fans have any reason to have animosity towards Houston. Ironically, to add insult to injury, the very next season in 1993, the Bills beat the Oilers yet again, in an embarrassment of a game 35-7 for them. So inside of 2 years, they lost in the most excruciating fashion ever, following that up with a blowout loss in the first rematch opportunity. Oh, and the first playoff game victory Kelly ever had was also against Houston, in 1988. Must've sucked for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Ironically, to add insult to injury, the very next season in 1993, the Bills beat the Oilers yet again, in an embarrassment of a game 35-7 for them. So inside of 2 years, they lost in the most excruciating fashion ever, following that up with a blowout loss in the first rematch opportunity. Oh, and the first playoff game victory Kelly ever had was also against Houston, in 1988. Must've sucked for them! embarrassment? No, that's allocated for the Bills 51-3 embarrassment of the Raiders 51-3 1991/01/20 Buffalo Bills 51 - Los Angeles Raiders 3 !! AFC CHAMPIONSHIP !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: embarrassment? No, that's allocated for the Bills 51-3 embarrassment of the Raiders 51-3 1991/01/20 Buffalo Bills 51 - Los Angeles Raiders 3 !! AFC CHAMPIONSHIP !! I truly enjoy debating the merits of which Bills playoff victories were most embarrassing for the oppo . I pretty much can't and won't fault your take here either. Ah, the off-season. Time to hop in the way-back machine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I truly enjoy debating the merits of which Bills playoff victories were most embarrassing for the oppo . I pretty much can't and won't fault your take here either. Ah, the off-season. Time to hop in the way-back machine... 3rd largest margin of victory in the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 3rd largest margin of victory in the playoffs. Great stat. I also believe that is the worst playoff loss in Raiders history still. I checked and they've had 2 regular season losses by margins of 55-0 and 52-0, I think those are the only worse games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 19 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Any team that beat the Bills during the playoffs or tromped them more than once recently. Chargers and Ravens and Jagoffs ARRGH, Shady, that's what makes the 98 season playoff loss to Miami so hard. I don't care if we ended up losing the following game (you know what I mean) , but beating the Dolphins there and you own a 3-0 advantage against them in the playoffs, and 1-0 against the Jets. Can't help anything with the Pats as they were our very first playoff loss, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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