GoBills808 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Whats wrong w the gas motors ? Found a mossy oak outdoorsman lifted one w 60k miles that I kinda dig the pricing Don't get a lifted truck if you're trying to tow...they build em to be able to work straight off the floor, any mods you do are going to impact capacities and performance. Diesels just are overall better for doing the stuff you need a truck to do. They're generally more reliable engines, last way longer, and as far as towing they generate a ton more torque so if you ever need to do a bigger job than you thought you'll be glad for the extra muscle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Don't get a lifted truck if you're trying to tow...they build em to be able to work straight off the floor, any mods you do are going to impact capacities and performance. Diesels just are overall better for doing the stuff you need a truck to do. They're generally more reliable engines, last way longer, and as far as towing they generate a ton more torque so if you ever need to do a bigger job than you thought you'll be glad for the extra muscle. And in any stop and go traffic in these neighborhoods and small towns you'll need start and go power. My f350 has tow mode which allows it to basically make a engine brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: And in any stop and go traffic in these neighborhoods and small towns you'll need start and go power. My f350 has tow mode which allows it to basically make a engine brake. The guy said he's going to be towing 5-8,000 lbs which is kind of right in the midsize wheelhouse for capacity...the new F150s are rated for like 5000-13,000 , I think the Tundra (which I like overall as a truck, Toyotas in general make good pickups but for a pure work truck they don't have a diesel so ehhhh) can do 10k...the thing is, if you're consistently putting 8,000 lbs in the trailer there's going to come a time when you need to haul 15-20,000lbs for some job and regardless, I would rather have a little too much truck than be constantly close-to-maxing out my capacity especially on a gasoline engine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: The guy said he's going to be towing 5-8,000 lbs which is kind of right in the midsize wheelhouse for capacity...the new F150s are rated for like 5000-13,000 , I think the Tundra (which I like overall as a truck, Toyotas in general make good pickups but for a pure work truck they don't have a diesel so ehhhh) can do 10k...the thing is, if you're consistently putting 8,000 lbs in the trailer there's going to come a time when you need to haul 15-20,000lbs for some job and regardless, I would rather have a little too much truck than be constantly close-to-maxing out my capacity especially on a gasoline engine. And those Lil boy MrAgs trucks only are made for consideration of occasional hauling. Not as a workhorse. Heaven forbid a tiny Fergy truck get sucked in to having to do work, it'd break down and wait for a Chevy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Gray Beard said: Because of this horrible commercial, I would hesitate to buy a Chevy (actually, I think most Chevy commercials are awful, but this brings it to a whole new level). None of them hold a candle to the Chevy commercial from the late 80s, with Country Clem, and his granny cackling “Don’t you buy no ugly truck!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 i have to imagine a used ford splash should get you what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, teef said: i have to imagine a used ford splash should get you what you need. Lmao. I’d roll with the ford lightning over that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 These are always tough questions and decisions because it's not easy to find one that meets all the needs. If your looking for a truck that will be a daily driver with the occasional weekend hauling and towing, the Toyota and Nissan trucks are nice for that. If it's going to be used as a work truck hauling and towing equipment daily, then one of the big 3 NA brands are probably the best choice. With most vehicles, if properly maintained following all routine maintenance, they should last for a long time. I did have one mechanic try to steer me away from Dodge a few years ago when I talked about buying one, he said it's the one they see the most of in the shop. Ford or GM seem to be used most often in fleets or for work trucks. The F250 and 2500 lines are typically better options for work vehicles, the F150 and 1500 series are more for the regular Joe. The models like the Outdoorsman series are usually more of an offroad package series with lifts and body protection. They arent usually that much better for working/hauling then the regular models that arent as expensive. The hauling they are expected to do would be for a small boat, ATVs and Snowmobiles. Suspension, brakes and overall truck size are factors that affect towing and hauling just as much if not more then Motor size depending on the size of what you are hauling. A small/midsize truck may have a motor that is strong enough to pull a heavy trailer, but because of the size of the truck and its length, it cant haul it because it isnt as stable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Lmao. I’d roll with the ford lightning over that i had a friend that when the kids graduated from high school, his parents bought the kids a car. anything they want within a price range. the splash is what he chose. we still to this day don't let him live that down. on top of that, he put a disgusting amount of money into it so he could, "race it". tens of thousands of dollars completely flushed down the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I has to Google the 'splash', I never knew that it was what they named the ranger with the flared wheel wells on the box. I used to like that look better then the regular box, but I was never a fan of the Ranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Never had a chance to jump into this thread. So looking at full sized half ton trucks. I'm down to Ford & Chev/GMC. But for this question it really doesn't matter. What's the best way to get that truck? So expensive and drawbacks in every choice: BUY: New but Holy Cow $$$$$$$$$$ Lease: OK less money but you're in for $300-$400 a month for forever, lease after lease Buy off-lease: 3-4 years old. Less $$$ but what's the history? Someone towing 10,000# around. Plus might need immediate maintenance Thanks for any inputs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: Never had a chance to jump into this thread. So looking at full sized half ton trucks. I'm down to Ford & Chev/GMC. But for this question it really doesn't matter. What's the best way to get that truck? So expensive and drawbacks in every choice: BUY: New but Holy Cow $$$$$$$$$$ Lease: OK less money but you're in for $300-$400 a month for forever, lease after lease Buy off-lease: 3-4 years old. Less $$$ but what's the history? Someone towing 10,000# around. Plus might need immediate maintenance Thanks for any inputs! Depending on your options, newer trucks arent that bad, until you start going into the upgraded packages..... The only worry going used is get it looked over real good cause you dont know how the previous owner used it. Today, many people who own trucks dont need to, they just want it because they are big and think they need one, but it's never been truly used for anything other then hauling themselves around. But there are some that use them like they are supposed and more that may look great but can be well worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 I’m getting the 19 Ram and hoping I can squeeze 250,000 miles out of it. Ford’s are dead to me after being 17k upside down on my 2016 F150. Not gonna do that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2020 Sierra has X-ray trailer vision: https://www.foxnews.com/auto/2020-gmc-sierra-hd-pickup-revealed-with-x-ray-vision See right through trailer, control trailer functions, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: I’m getting the 19 Ram and hoping I can squeeze 250,000 miles out of it. Ford’s are dead to me after being 17k upside down on my 2016 F150. Not gonna do that again I think the Rams have the best look to them, I have heard that their reliability was an issue though. I know my friend whos family has always been Ford for everything has said he wouldn't buy one again after they have had a bunch of problems with their current Fords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 21 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: I’m getting the 19 Ram and hoping I can squeeze 250,000 miles out of it. Ford’s are dead to me after being 17k upside down on my 2016 F150. Not gonna do that again Ha, you dont think you'll be upside down on a new dodge? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Shop, shop, shop. Buy a used truck, loaded to the max with under 100k from an old guy. In 2004, I bought a hard loaded 2001 V-10 F250 Lariot with 85k for half of blue book. Old man gave it to his middle age son, who didn't need it and was supposed to give it to his own son but decided 16 yr old grandson didn't deserve or need a truck of that class. I sold it 6-7 years later for exactly what I paid. If not for 4.00 gas prices at the time, I would've kept it. I miss that madmofoin truck! Edited January 23, 2019 by BUFFALOKIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 My lease on F150 is up in April. Not sure what I'm going to do. As a company vehicle leasing makes the most sense. I just can't get used to not owning though. Haven't made my mind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 12:06 PM, GoBills808 said: The guy said he's going to be towing 5-8,000 lbs which is kind of right in the midsize wheelhouse for capacity...the new F150s are rated for like 5000-13,000 , I think the Tundra (which I like overall as a truck, Toyotas in general make good pickups but for a pure work truck they don't have a diesel so ehhhh) can do 10k...the thing is, if you're consistently putting 8,000 lbs in the trailer there's going to come a time when you need to haul 15-20,000lbs for some job and regardless, I would rather have a little too much truck than be constantly close-to-maxing out my capacity especially on a gasoline engine. Completely agree. Also concerned with fuel mileage. If you know you are towing then at least a HD 250/2500 with diesel. Fuel mileage fluctuation is minimal between loaded/unloaded relative to gas engines. I drive a 2500 HD and haven't found anything I couldn't move yet. Would drive an F450 if I could get my wife to agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 22 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: I think the Rams have the best look to them, I have heard that their reliability was an issue though. I know my friend whos family has always been Ford for everything has said he wouldn't buy one again after they have had a bunch of problems with their current Fords. How current was the Ram you heard this on ? I have a few friends that have 14-16ish ones and say it’s been all good 3 hours ago, BUFFALOKIE said: Ha, you dont think you'll be upside down on a new dodge? Hope not. Motortrend wants to make sweet love to it https://www.motortrend.com/cars/ram/1500/2019/ram-1500-2019-truck-of-the-year/ Is motortrend reliable ? Or a hack ? They are the go to no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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