MJS Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, The Drought said: I'm almost positive that there are more former Bills in the playoffs this year than there are current Bills. You can say that about any team not in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, MJS said: You can say that about any team not in the playoffs. Exactly. The number of current Bills in the playoffs in going to be zero because we came up short. You could say the same about the Jets or Fins. If you don't make the playoffs and there is even one former player on any of the remaining teams, that statement will hold true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) On 1/13/2019 at 1:40 PM, LSHMEAB said: As long as they start winning, they'll be fine. I would think all Bills fans would be tired of other teams popping up everywhere. It's our turn. Make or break in 2019. Why is it we have have to continue to remind people of the plan? Get our QB, fix the cap, have extra draft picks- those 3 main components have been achieved along with 2 good drafts in a row! Edited January 15, 2019 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Why is it we have have to continue to remind people of the plan? Get our QB, fix the cap, have extra draft picks- those 3 main components have been achieved along with 2 good drafts in a row! Good. So we're making the playoffs in 2019, right? Awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Good. So we're making the playoffs in 2019, right? Awesome. I love it when people take something and spin it- kudos to you. No one has a crystal ball especially with injuries etc- but one thing is for certain; this team is heading in the right direction. QB position 1-3 settled, cap will allow for some FA’s of need, ten draft picks gives flexibility. Year 2 of the same offensive system and year 3 of the same defensive system is huge also. Oh, new ST/O line coordinators inbound- one possibly being Philbin. But yeah, its all doom and gloom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I love it when people take something and spin it- kudos to you. No one has a crystal ball especially with injuries etc- but one thing is for certain; this team is heading in the right direction. QB position 1-3 settled, cap will allow for some FA’s of need, ten draft picks gives flexibility. Year 2 of the same offensive system and year 3 of the same defensive system is huge also. Oh, new ST/O line coordinators inbound- one possibly being Philbin. But yeah, its all doom and gloom. What's the spin? If everything is going according to plan, we should see some serious results in 2019, correct? That's what Bills fans should expect from their team. We've been bottom feeders long enough. Time to start winning lots of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 12 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: If Josh Allen went to Dallas then Dak wouldnt be starting for long. Why? -Does Allen know Jeff Gillooly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: What's the spin? If everything is going according to plan, we should see some serious results in 2019, correct? That's what Bills fans should expect from their team. We've been bottom feeders long enough. Time to start winning lots of games. I expect a super bowl and this thing to be built the right way- which it appears they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Well, Rob Woods should still be here. Cannot believe they let a lunch pail, blue collar kinda guy like that go. All he does is catch and block, don't need that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 11 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: I love it when people take something and spin it- kudos to you. No one has a crystal ball especially with injuries etc- but one thing is for certain; this team is heading in the right direction. QB position 1-3 settled, cap will allow for some FA’s of need, ten draft picks gives flexibility. Year 2 of the same offensive system and year 3 of the same defensive system is huge also. Oh, new ST/O line coordinators inbound- one possibly being Philbin. But yeah, its all doom and gloom. This right here is a major reason you don't do a complete tear down in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 He was 100% right. Not sure why anyone has a problem with it. We had a very talented roster. But its smart what what the new regime did. Trade away/ let talent go and pretend like they had nothing to work with. Good way to buy yourself some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, #34fan said: Why? -Does Allen know Jeff Gillooly? This would only lead to Josh crying when he broke a lace on his cleats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, pop gun said: This right here is a major reason you don't do a complete tear down in the NFL. Except when you are in salary cap jail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Except when you are in salary cap jail Well the good news is when you don’t have many good players, you don’t need to worry about big contracts. Genius. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Well the good news is when you don’t have many good players, you don’t need to worry about big contracts. Genius. Thats your story and your stickin’ to it! Peace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Pretty sure there are ex-Bills on almost every other NFL team - through trades, free agency, cuts, etc. Pointing out that a former player is on a playoff team is a pretty lame way to criticize the front office. If you want to criticize a personnel decision, then state your case why that individual decision was a bad one. Don't just say "that guy is in the playoffs now." Was the Sammy Watkins trade BAD, just because he is in the playoffs? That's a really poor argument. - It doesn't take into account that the 2nd Round Pick we got was vital in the trade-up to get Josh Allen, who could end up being a franchise QB. - It doesn't take into account that we made the playoffs in 2017 even without Watkins on the roster. - It doesn't take into account that Los Angeles got him on a one-year rental, and still got knocked out after one playoff game (just like us). - It doesn't take into account that he signed for a whopping $16 million per year in Free Agency to be the #3 receiving option on the Chiefs. - It doesn't take into account that Watkins still hasn't broken 600 yards in a season since leaving Buffalo, which is statistically less-productive than Zay Jones. - It doesn't take into account that his foot injury kept him off the field AGAIN this season, limiting him to only nine games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Pretty sure there are ex-Bills on almost every other NFL team - through trades, free agency, cuts, etc. Pointing out that a former player is on a playoff team is a pretty lame way to criticize the front office. If you want to criticize a personnel decision, then state your case why that individual decision was a bad one. Don't just say "that guy is in the playoffs now." Was the Sammy Watkins trade BAD, just because he is in the playoffs? That's a really poor argument. - It doesn't take into account that the 2nd Round Pick we got was vital in the trade-up to get Josh Allen, who could end up being a franchise QB. - It doesn't take into account that we made the playoffs in 2017 even without Watkins on the roster. - It doesn't take into account that Los Angeles got him on a one-year rental, and still got knocked out after one playoff game (just like us). - It doesn't take into account that he signed for a whopping $16 million per year in Free Agency to be the #3 receiving option on the Chiefs. - It doesn't take into account that Watkins still hasn't broken 600 yards in a season since leaving Buffalo, which is statistically less-productive than Zay Jones. - It doesn't take into account that his foot injury kept him off the field AGAIN this season, limiting him to only nine games. it's a lot of ex-bills the last 20 years as major contributors to playoff teams most notable for RB, secondary and WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, row_33 said: it's a lot of ex-bills the last 20 years as major contributors to playoff teams most notable for RB, secondary and WR The current front office has been here for 2 years. So the "last 20 years" is completely irrelevant. Also, I would be curious to see what you would consider a "major contributor" from the guys we traded away: - Sammy Watkins who played 9 games, barely had 500 yards and wasn't missed as the #3 target for the Chiefs - Ronald Darby who has only played 16 games the last two seasons, and was on IR for both playoff games - Reggie Ragland who logged 40 less tackles than either Edmunds or Milano, and was generally invisible all season - Marcel Dareus who... whoops, was not in the playoffs - Cordy Glenn who... oh yeah, same as above I see two (recent) former Bills who I would consider major contributors to playoff teams. Both left via free agency. They were not traded away. Stephon Gilmore, who has been more than adequately replaced by Tre White Robert Woods, who would never be putting up these numbers outside of Sean McVay's offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, mjt328 said: Pretty sure there are ex-Bills on almost every other NFL team - through trades, free agency, cuts, etc. Pointing out that a former player is on a playoff team is a pretty lame way to criticize the front office. If you want to criticize a personnel decision, then state your case why that individual decision was a bad one. Don't just say "that guy is in the playoffs now." Was the Sammy Watkins trade BAD, just because he is in the playoffs? That's a really poor argument. - It doesn't take into account that the 2nd Round Pick we got was vital in the trade-up to get Josh Allen, who could end up being a franchise QB. - It doesn't take into account that we made the playoffs in 2017 even without Watkins on the roster. - It doesn't take into account that Los Angeles got him on a one-year rental, and still got knocked out after one playoff game (just like us). - It doesn't take into account that he signed for a whopping $16 million per year in Free Agency to be the #3 receiving option on the Chiefs. - It doesn't take into account that Watkins still hasn't broken 600 yards in a season since leaving Buffalo, which is statistically less-productive than Zay Jones. - It doesn't take into account that his foot injury kept him off the field AGAIN this season, limiting him to only nine games. Did you really want Andre Reed to dissect the personnel decisions in this manner on Twitter? The guy was sitting at home making an observation at the large number of ex Bills currently in the playoffs. He's not applying for a GM position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He was 100% right. Not sure why anyone has a problem with it. We had a very talented roster. But its smart what what the new regime did. Trade away/ let talent go and pretend like they had nothing to work with. Good way to buy yourself some time. Don’t forget “make the playoffs.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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