Boatdrinks Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Everyone is an expert in hindsight. No, that’s not it. The issue is that NFL execs, HCs et al are paid big $$ to have foresight. A vision for building a team. Bills fans mostly don’t have anything against Allen, but Mahomes looks as close to a sure thing as there is. Allen may or may not pan out at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, APoxOnYou said: I swear the most asine arguments are made for Mahomes on this forum. Ridiculous. That's usually because they're made by people who love to talk about why the Bills suck, and how they would be a much better team if only THEY were the owner/GM/HC/OC/DC/QB/RB for the team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: No, that’s not it. The issue is that NFL execs, HCs et al are paid big $$ to have foresight. A vision for building a team. Bills fans mostly don’t have anything against Allen, but Mahomes looks as close to a sure thing as there is. Allen may or may not pan out at all. Ok, like Mahomes was the second coming going into the draft. He was evaluated like all the other Texas Tech QBs who throw up ridiculous numbers. Secondly, I was making reference to fans who like to play this shoulda woulda game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 If you're a critic of Shady, watch the Rams run block and compare the holes they create for their backs to the stone walls our OL provided for McCoy this season. Criticism is easy when you don't comparison shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 If you really take a look at the number of posts one way or another, the overwhelming preponderance of them are pro Allen citing everything Kansas City has that the Bills don't. Not quite sure where the persecution complex comes from. Right now, Mahomes is great. There's no reason to believe he wouldn't have solid results anywhere. QB's like that tend to make everyone better. Hopefully, Allen gets near that level and the Bills get him more talent. It's unfair to judge Allen one way or the other at this point. We know what Mahomes is all about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 37 minutes ago, APoxOnYou said: I think it has something to do with the fact that there is a sizable contingent of fans on this board that feel that if you aren't always incredibly critical of the Bills originzation and their decisions your catigorized as a "Homer". Which is why i think constantly bring Mahomes up. It reinforces their (I believe incorrect) argument that he's the greatest ever. You're probably right but that's what's strange to me - I am proud to be a homer becasue I'm a fan! I don't pretend to be impartial. If you claim to be a fan but are not a "homer" then what the hell are you? Now that doesn't mean I'm blind to what goes on in Bills land and I don't view everything through rose colored glasses. I like to think that I'm a decent judge of NFL talent for the simple reason that I've spent 50 years watching the NFL closely. But I'll own rooting for any player that wears the blue, white & red! It's just like some of these people want Allen to fail while rooting for Mahomes to win the MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said: Or Andy has learned how to manage a rookie QB which means a red-shirt first season. Even McNabb sat for half a season behind Pederson. I know cuz I lived in Philly at the time. That is why the Chiefs signed A Smith, and the moved up to draft Mahomes. Andy got smarter. He's no dope. He looked like a dope losing all those home playoff games with KC until Mahomes arrived. Remember.........Meathead Mike Mularkey stunned Andy Reid at home in the playoffs last season.......the same season he drafted Mahomes.........so not sure he was smarter just yet........that seemed to happen when Mahomes started wheeling and dealing including some crazy off-platform throws.? I guess what you are getting at is that McDermott made a bad decision by not getting a legit starting QB or keeping Tyrod so that Allen could sit for a season? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Ok, like Mahomes was the second coming going into the draft. He was evaluated like all the other Texas Tech QBs who throw up ridiculous numbers. Secondly, I was making reference to fans who like to play this shoulda woulda game. If he was thought of as the second coming he would have been gone with the 1st overall pick and there would be no issue. What’s done is done, but I’d feel a lot better about the Bills talent evaluators and the team’s future if they had addressed the franchise’s most pressing need by drafting Mahomes. Edited January 13, 2019 by Boatdrinks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Billsmisery said: If the chiefs win the SB I'll have to quit watching the NfL sadly...I mean the Chiefs really? I wouldnt be able to stand all of the moron fans around here ugh. No way, the Chiefs are just fine. I hope they are there because it means NE won’t be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: If he was thought of as the second coming he would have been gone with the 1st overall pick and there would be no issue. What’s done is done, but I’d feel a lot better about the Bills talent evaluators and the team’s future if they had addressed the franchise’s most pressing need by drafting Mahomes. Like I said...shoulda woulda coulda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Ok, like Mahomes was the second coming going into the draft. He was evaluated like all the other Texas Tech QBs who throw up ridiculous numbers. Secondly, I was making reference to fans who like to play this shoulda woulda game. I'm with you on the hindsight thing. I don't really play that game because I personally didn't think he'd be this good. But he IS this good. I don't really blame the Bills because there was too much going on with the organization. What's done is done. I can't sit here and pretend like he's not special because the Bills didn't draft him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just now, LSHMEAB said: I'm with you on the hindsight thing. I don't really play that game because I personally didn't think he'd be this good. But he IS this good. I don't really blame the Bills because there was too much going on with the organization. What's done is done. I can't sit here and pretend like he's not special because the Bills didn't draft him. Agreed. He turned out to be a great QB, kudos to the Chiefs. No sense in whining about it now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Here's the thing. Mahomes had a full year to sit behind Alex Smith. A full year, no starting expectations, watching a very smart QB (A Smith) prepare and learn. He has a very good offensive coach who made McNabb and a bunch of junk other than RBs look good. Mahomes was 100% handled the right way. JA was not, and has not had the same. Most people wanted him to sit a year, like a red shirt, and learn the pro game. There is a reason JA appreciates having KA and MB on the team. Patrick Mahomes is phenominal. But he was also put into a 100% dream job. Had Buffalo drafted him, he would not be the same. The fact JA did what he did as a rookie, in a far worse situation, speaks to JA as a competitor. Mahomes landed in a dream situation. JA is the right guy for Buffalo, because has shown an ability to overcome the limitations around him. God knows the Bills messed up everything about JA's first year, and he still flashed success. I like this post ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: He looked like a dope losing all those home playoff games with KC until Mahomes arrived. Remember.........Meathead Mike Mularkey stunned Andy Reid at home in the playoffs last season.......the same season he drafted Mahomes.........so not sure he was smarter just yet........that seemed to happen when Mahomes started wheeling and dealing including some crazy off-platform throws.? I guess what you are getting at is that McDermott made a bad decision by not getting a legit starting QB or keeping Tyrod so that Allen could sit for a season? No. That same 'dope' went to numerous NFC championship games with the Eagles and a SB with Donovan McNabb, a SU QB. You are a hater, and are ignorant. Andy Reid had garbage in Philly until Pat Mahomes. Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes = Super Bowls Edited January 13, 2019 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: No. That same 'dope' went to numerous NFC championship games with the Eagles and a SB with Donovan McNabb, a SU QB. You are a hater, and are ignorant. Andy Reid had garbage in Philly until Pat Mahomes. Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes = Super Bowls Pat Mahomes played in Philly. Hmmmmm musta missed dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Pat Mahomes played in Philly. Hmmmmm musta missed dat Dumb troll. Pat Mahomes never played in Philly Andy Reid got to Super Bowl with McNabb... mmmm hmm loser dumb as#eed troll Edited January 13, 2019 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Dumb troll. Pat Mahomes never played in Philly Andy Reid got to Super Bowl with McNabb... mmmm hmm loser dumb as#eed troll He didn’t ? No sh** A-hole your idiotic post said he did. Who’s a troll ? You’re a loser you idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Pat Mahomes played in Philly. Hmmmmm musta missed dat Pat Mahomes never played in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Pat Mahomes never played in Philly. No Sh** read your damn post. It says Reid had garbage in Philly until Mahomes. You are a cementhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: No Sh** read your damn post. It says Reid had garbage in Philly until Mahomes. OK this is an obvious 'psycological joke', I call BS Be aware OBD. Edited January 13, 2019 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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