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Cleveland Browns to hire Freddie Kitchens as HC


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Heard from several people with close ties to the team that they thought Kitchens was the right choice. That has been the case for weeks. Also heard that many players did not want Gregg retained as HC or DC and that they conveyed that to the powers that be in Berea. 

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26 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Also heard that many players did not want Gregg retained as HC or DC and that they conveyed that to the powers that be in Berea...

...because they were chanting “We want Rex!”

 

.....................:.....and now you know....the REST of the story.............?

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39 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Heard from several people with close ties to the team that they thought Kitchens was the right choice. That has been the case for weeks. Also heard that many players did not want Gregg retained as HC or DC and that they conveyed that to the powers that be in Berea. 

 

The Execs are very smart to not be shortsighted by a few wins.  Williams is super arrogant and he will get prickly.  At the first sign of adversity he will alienate half the team and front office.  Good move to go in a different direction now.   

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Wow...talk about a rapid ascension...he will find out quickly being a HC is far more of a managerial role than a X's and O's role...gonna need to be doing a lot more than just runing a good offense for Mayfield...

 

Personally think he is in way over his head right now...usually these position coaches who get hired as a HC are assistant head coaches and are introduced to HC duties and decisions for fairly lengthy periods of time...the NFL is nowhere yo try and figure this stuff out on the fly...they are kind of throwing him into the deep end and hoping he can swim...

 

Odds arent in his favor. Even when the Browns try to follow the trend in the league they screw it up...

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6 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Wow...talk about a rapid ascension...he will find out quickly being a HC is far more of a managerial role than a X's and O's role...gonna need to be doing a lot more than just runing a good offense for Mayfield...

 

Personally think he is in way over his head right now...usually these position coaches who get hired as a HC are assistant head coaches and are introduced to HC duties and decisions for fairly lengthy periods of time...the NFL is nowhere yo try and figure this stuff out on the fly...they are kind of throwing him into the deep end and hoping he can swim...

 

Odds arent in his favor.

I will say he is similar to ALynn ... RB coach to interim OC where he called plays for 1st time, then straight to HC. He has a lot of nfl coaching experience and was QB coach under Arians in Arizona when Carson Palmer was there. 

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I will say he is similar to ALynn ... RB coach to interim OC where he called plays for 1st time, then straight to HC. He has a lot of nfl coaching experience and was QB coach under Arians in Arizona when Carson Palmer was there. 

 

No...Lynn was an Assistant Head Coach for a LONG time where he was introduced to these types of things and was mentored on how to handle things and was in meetings when these things came up...Kitchens had none of this...

 

Basically this is the equivalent of giving a dude in the stands the key to a NASCAR car and telling him to go drive it...

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4 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

No...Lynn was an Assistant Head Coach for a LONG time where he was introduced to these types of things and was mentored on how to handle things and was in meetings when these things came up...Kitchens had none of this...

 

Basically this is the equivalent of giving a dude in the stands the key to a NASCAR car and telling him to go drive it...

True I forgot about that 

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1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

Heard from several people with close ties to the team that they thought Kitchens was the right choice. That has been the case for weeks. Also heard that many players did not want Gregg retained as HC or DC and that they conveyed that to the powers that be in Berea. 

 

Well...running an offense is a lot different than running the team, making tons of non football decisions and having them take up huge amounts of your time, knowing how to hold other coaches accountable and how to interact with them as the leader.

 

With no real experience with any of this all I can say is good luck. My prediction is they realize he is in way over his head pretty quickly.

 

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39 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Wow...talk about a rapid ascension...he will find out quickly being a HC is far more of a managerial role than a X's and O's role...gonna need to be doing a lot more than just runing a good offense for Mayfield...

 

Personally think he is in way over his head right now...usually these position coaches who get hired as a HC are assistant head coaches and are introduced to HC duties and decisions for fairly lengthy periods of time...the NFL is nowhere yo try and figure this stuff out on the fly...they are kind of throwing him into the deep end and hoping he can swim...

 

Odds arent in his favor. Even when the Browns try to follow the trend in the league they screw it up...

 

I thought that about ALynn when he went to the Chargers.  Man, this guy has been running backs coach, has a partial season as OC and one game at HC, he's way over his head.  Now we're talking about "the coach that got away" and the Chargers have a chance to take out the Patriots.

 

Wasn't Kitchens officially "running backs coach and associate head coach" at the start of the season?

 

Maybe he's over his head, or maybe he's got this.

 

Holy crap!  From Wiki: " In 2013, Kitchens underwent emergency surgery to repair an aortic dissection.[6] "

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12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Thought tomatoes were a fruit?

A tomato is scientifically categorized as a fruit as it's technically the means by which a plant spreads it's seed and not the plant itself. However, the Supreme Court deemed them vegetables in a case involving the Tariff Act of 1883.

 

The more you know.

 

At any rate, I'm sure Fast Freddie Kitchens will be cookin up some serious gameplans for his young Baker.

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