RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 All in the Family. Liberals fail to realize most of the criticism was thrown at Archie via Archie's attitudes on a wide variety of topics. Gomer Pyle, USMC. Ratings champ of the 1960's but too sweet for today's audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hogan's Heroes The Lawrence Welk Show The Captain and Tenille ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: All in the Family. Liberals fail to realize most of the criticism was thrown at Archie via Archie's attitudes on a wide variety of topics. Gomer Pyle, USMC. Ratings champ of the 1960's but too sweet for today's audiences. I don't think "liberals" fail to realize what you think they fail to realize. Quite honestly I think a show like that today would do fabulously. Maybe not on broadcast TV, but somewhere in the vast realm of entertainment broadcasting. Audiences would love to laugh at a character like that right now. Not with him because he is right, but AT him because he was so incredibly wrong and behind the times. Just like they did in the 1970's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Hogan's Heroes The Lawrence Welk Show The Captain and Tenille ? I would bet that more than one college thesis was done for Hogan's Heroes and nearly all in a negative light. I always thought the character of Col Klink was spot on with his bored attitude of Hitler and the Nazi Party. Quite a number of the traditional soldiers consider Hitler and the Nazi's idiots. I never had a problem with Lawrence Welk just like I never had a problem with rap as long as there was a positive message to it. It's music and not everybody is going to have the same tastes and that is a good thing. The problem with LW is it is tied at the hip with the generally perceived out of touch nature of those who were adults before the 1960's. Assuming that the recently departed Captain was still around the show would be perceived as too up and dated. Edited January 8, 2019 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: All in the Family. Liberals fail to realize most of the criticism was thrown at Archie via Archie's attitudes on a wide variety of topics. Also Mike was sort of proven to be right at the end of most of the episodes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I don't think "liberals" fail to realize what you think they fail to realize. Quite honestly I think a show like that today would do fabulously. Maybe not on broadcast TV, but somewhere in the vast realm of entertainment broadcasting. Audiences would love to laugh at a character like that right now. Not with him because he is right, but AT him because he was so incredibly wrong and behind the times. Just like they did in the 1970's. I think that if nobody had a problem with it the show would already been rebooted. After all, Hollywood has shown that no one show is so sacred that it can't be touched. Star Trek redone although on the big screen. Until it came out in 1995 I thought the Brady Bunch would never be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Another Fan said: Also Mike was sort of proven to be right at the end of most of the episodes Which was the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The Cosby Show! puddin pop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, RochesterRob said: I think that if nobody had a problem with it the show would already been rebooted. After all, Hollywood has shown that no one show is so sacred that it can't be touched. Star Trek redone although on the big screen. Until it came out in 1995 I thought the Brady Bunch would never be done. I've said to others that I felt that South Park was the All in the Family of our times. Certainly a different framework of show but they go after every controversial topic, no holds barred. Part of the probelm with doing a full re-boot of All in the Family would be finding an actor willing to be Carroll O'Connor. Those are HUGE shoes to fill. Sort of like there won't be a Mama's Family because nobody will want to try to one-up Carol Burnett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Also Mike was sort of proven to be right at the end of most of the episodes He was and at the same time his flaws shone through via Norman Lear's biases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Amos n Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I've said to others that I felt that South Park was the All in the Family of our times. Certainly a different framework of show but they go after every controversial topic, no holds barred. Part of the probelm with doing a full re-boot of All in the Family would be finding an actor willing to be Carroll O'Connor. Those are HUGE shoes to fill. Sort of like there won't be a Mama's Family because nobody will want to try to one-up Carol Burnett. I have no doubt that there are actors out there who have the balls to play Archie. And the producer will vow not to make the same "mistakes" as the original as Archie will be made 100 percent contemptible while Mike would be made 100 percent enlightened. No episodes such as "Everyone tells the truth" will be made where there is some criticism for both sides on a topic. Carol Burnett is different as her characters are organic to her so a reinterpretation would be difficult to pull off. Carroll O'Connor was a fantastic actor and did a terrific job with Archie but very little of Archie had to come from O'Connor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I wish In living Color would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: I have no doubt that there are actors out there who have the balls to play Archie. And the producer will vow not to make the same "mistakes" as the original as Archie will be made 100 percent contemptible while Mike would be made 100 percent enlightened. No episodes such as "Everyone tells the truth" will be made where there is some criticism for both sides on a topic. Carol Burnett is different as her characters are organic to her so a reinterpretation would be difficult to pull off. Carroll O'Connor was a fantastic actor and did a terrific job with Archie but very little of Archie had to come from O'Connor. Last Man Standing seems to be the show you're looking for. A conservative father and his idiot son in law. They tried the show 704 Hauser that was a failure. A black family moved into Archie's old house. The father was a staunch democrat/liberal, and his son was a young black Republican/conservative. Didn't last very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wacka Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, RochesterRob said: I would bet that more than one college thesis was done for Hogan's Heroes and nearly all in a negative light. I always thought the character of Col Klink was spot on with his bored attitude of Hitler and the Nazi Party. Quite a number of the traditional soldiers consider Hitler and the Nazi's idiots. Klink, Shultz, Hochsteetter,Burkhalter and LeBeau were all jewish. Robert Clary (LeBeau )had the tattoo from a concentration camp on his arm.Werner Klemperer (Klink) stated that if they ever wrote an episode where Klink won out over hogan, he would quit on the spot., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I wonder if the Network Nightly News shows are on the way out. The audiences skew 50+ in age and people are getting their news elsewhere. The shows used to be like a public service and I think written into the licensing agreements with the FCC. They cost a ton and as they lose viewers, they are likely going away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Father Knows Best. What Baby Mama even knows who the father is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, RochesterRob said: I would bet that more than one college thesis was done for Hogan's Heroes and nearly all in a negative light. I always thought the character of Col Klink was spot on with his bored attitude of Hitler and the Nazi Party. Quite a number of the traditional soldiers consider Hitler and the Nazi's idiots. I did a college paper which my theory Shultz was a Ally spy and reason he was in camp was to help Hogan and his crew out. I got an A on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnysteel Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Tenspeed and Brown Shoe. (google it...it's real). 14 episodes in 1980. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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