TH3 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Then they the Mexicans should pay for the wall as the orange menace promised The finger-pointing is ridiculous. Each side is uncompromisingly childish and arrogant on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: i don't know that i would take away much of anything from WND. Then don't. In the meantime though, can you dispute any part of the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Then don't. In the meantime though, can you dispute any part of the article? no, i didn't read the article because i have in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rob's House said: You do realize it's the Democrats in the Senate that are holding out, right? The House passed a bill that the Senate Dems refuse to vote on. President Trump hasn't vetoed anything. He has taken no official action to cause the shutdown. Interesting. That's not what I've heard. I believe it was Mitch who said, “The Senate will not waste its time considering a Democratic bill which cannot pass this chamber and which the president will not sign.” https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-democrats-to-vote-on-total-nonstarter-bills-ending-government-shutdown-opposed-by-trump-republican-led-senate So how does that make it the Dems who vote on it? Republicans have the majority in the Senate the last I looked. This is all political posturing. Tom said it best up thread, both sides deserve blame. When did I ever blame Trump for the shutdown?Please show me. 32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I agree it shouldn't be the way either side works. However, it is always the way one side (and sometimes both sides) work. If you are on shutdown, call your local House Rep and Senator and ask them to vote for wall funding. The sooner that thin slice of government money is set aside for border security, the sooner the government can reopen. And while you are at it, ask your House Rep to work on a budget and not just stopgap funding - so federal employees will not be used as leverage again in a few weeks or months when the stopgap spending bill again runs out. I'm not a government worker. I just hate seeing politics utilize these people as leverage (not of their own doing). I can get a union striking out a company locking out, because that's the nature of organized labor. However these people have no skin in the political game and are being used like they don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Foxx said: aww... was your flat ass okay afterwards? I wish it was soft and toasty. These desky jockey bureaucrats from the Arsenal were true pros to the meeting scene... Union people. Strangely it wasn't me. I am just a working slob from a field site... Swing shifter. We learn to deal with a chaffed rosey Federal azz... Then again... I don't think I am toting around a seat cushion for the once every 2 year safety meeting I have to attend. LoL... Edited January 9, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I agree it shouldn't be the way either side works. However, it is always the way one side (and sometimes both sides) work. If you are on shutdown, call your local House Rep and Senator and ask them to vote for wall funding an inefficient use of $6 billion dollars that is not part of a fully integrated strategy to address a complex problem - and in fact does not address the specific issues it is pointed at...but does make Trump minions Rush and Coulter happy.....so YES CALL YOUR REP!! . The sooner that thin slice of government money is set aside for border security, the sooner the government can reopen. And while you are at it, ask your House Rep to work on a budget and not just stopgap funding - so federal employees will not be used as leverage again in a few weeks or months when the stopgap spending bill again runs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: no, i didn't read the article because i have in the past. When I came across that article I was searching for a list of all the times the dems made promises to negotiate border security after the R's gave in on amnesty. This became a hot topic here at PPP back in 2013 when some of us made a point of saying that the wall had to come first before negotiating on the "dreamers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 "And, most important, Pelosi and Schumer failed to use the one word that millions of Americans were longing to hear — compromise." "But Trump did. That is why the president won the night. Schumer and Pelosi appealed to their base, while Trump made an effective appeal to persuadable Americans."Writes Marc A. Thiessen in The Washington Post. . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rob's House said: Not everyone follows politics. A lot of people only get headlines or what they hear in passing. In the end, this is really the truth. The left echo chamber is so remarkably tight, they miss this point and think they're winning. Again, look at the HUFFPO headline announcing that Pelosi and Shumer were a huge hit last night. Trump spoke to America. Pelosi and Shumer spoke to each other. Just that simple. Just now, B-Man said: "And, most important, Pelosi and Schumer failed to use the one word that millions of Americans were longing to hear — compromise." "But Trump did. That is why the president won the night. Schumer and Pelosi appealed to their base, while Trump made an effective appeal to persuadable Americans."Writes Marc A. Thiessen in The Washington Post. . Yep. Pretty much my point. Edited January 9, 2019 by LABillzFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, TH3 said: Oh good! So you think the House will give the full $25B and get those extra Democrat Senate votes needed for passage, and reopen the government!? Call your rep and ask for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Beautiful lady! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, nkreed said: Interesting. That's not what I've heard. I believe it was Mitch who said, “The Senate will not waste its time considering a Democratic bill which cannot pass this chamber and which the president will not sign.” https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-democrats-to-vote-on-total-nonstarter-bills-ending-government-shutdown-opposed-by-trump-republican-led-senate So how does that make it the Dems who vote on it? Republicans have the majority in the Senate the last I looked. This is all political posturing. Tom said it best up thread, both sides deserve blame. When did I ever blame Trump for the shutdown?Please show me. I'm not a government worker. I just hate seeing politics utilize these people as leverage (not of their own doing). I can get a union striking out a company locking out, because that's the nature of organized labor. However these people have no skin in the political game and are being used like they don't matter. The House passed a bill in the last congress by a substantial margin (the one Nancy said couldn't happen) and the Senate did not have 60 votes because the dems and Chuck Schumer lined up against it. I laugh every time you guys on the left talk about the R's having a "majority" in the Senate. You are being either disingenuous or just don'tknowshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: When I came across that article I was searching for a list of all the times the dems made promises to negotiate border security after the R's gave in on amnesty. This became a hot topic here at PPP back in 2013 when some of us made a point of saying that the wall had to come first before negotiating on the "dreamers". i used to look there to read Gordon Duff (? (i think)) years ago. they are more of neo-con type thinking than anything else. which in and of itself wouldn't be so bad as long as you understood that they were coming at you from that platform. it is the fact that they are trying to manipulate you in a obvious way by employing the subtle use of NLP. whereby capitalizing words in an ordinary sentence structure to give them added weight in an unsuspecting way. i try to avoid agenda driven narratives that blatantly want to manipulate my thinking. 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Beautiful lady! she would be much more beautiful with a couple of towers in the background. Edited January 9, 2019 by Foxx 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I don't kill the messenger before I read the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: The House passed a bill in the last congress by a substantial margin (the one Nancy said couldn't happen) and the Senate did not have 60 votes because the dems and Chuck Schumer lined up against it. I laugh every time you guys on the left talk about the R's having a "majority" in the Senate. You are being either disingenuous or just don'tknowshit. Yes, disingenuous for sure. I know how the Senate works. That doesn't automatically mean that it's the D's fault. Again, I'm aware that's it's political posturing. I just can't fathom why McConnell would put himself in the political crosshairs like he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I don't kill the messenger before I read the message. lol. the message is built on deception. did the gist of my post not register? Edited January 9, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: she would be much more beautiful with a couple of towers in the background. Careful there, some newbies may not get your reference. (And had it already been 17 years? Where did the time go?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hope I can get work done today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, nkreed said: So how does that make it the Dems who vote on it? Republicans have the majority in the Senate the last I looked It requires 60 votes to pass the Senate. The GOP doesn't hold that many seats so majority control does not mean they can get anything passed they wish. **************************************** 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 To keep the mood light, posted only in jest: 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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