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Watching the Colts game right now once again they put the graphic up of the offensive ranking from last year of the Colts and then with the addition of their first round pick and additional upgrades, Luck's O-Line is night and day and they are dominant!  This has to be the focus of the draft and free agency. 

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13 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Watching the Colts game right now once again they put the graphic up of the offensive ranking from last year of the Colts and then with the addition of their first round pick and additional upgrades, Luck's O-Line is night and day and they are dominant!  This has to be the focus of the draft and free agency. 

I saw that. Obviously changing from Brissett to Luck matters too along with Reich but I agree, let’s get better up front!

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19 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Watching the Colts game right now once again they put the graphic up of the offensive ranking from last year of the Colts and then with the addition of their first round pick and additional upgrades, Luck's O-Line is night and day and they are dominant!  This has to be the focus of the draft and free agency. 

Quentin Nelson is a beast.

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not news...  it's been true since the beginning of football.  control the line of scrimmage = win the game.

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21 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Watching the Colts game right now once again they put the graphic up of the offensive ranking from last year of the Colts and then with the addition of their first round pick and additional upgrades, Luck's O-Line is night and day and they are dominant!  This has to be the focus of the draft and free agency. 

  Granted that we had other fish to fry the last draft (QB) but a lot of people here were down on taking Nelson regardless if we needed a QB.  Nelson was the most NFL ready prospect coming out and the last half of the season he showed why.

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8 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

Quentin Nelson is a beast.

Nelson and Kelly really make that line elite. Good tackles and above average RG, but it's having those two that elevates the entire line.

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18 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said:

I saw that. Obviously changing from Brissett to Luck matters too along with Reich but I agree, let’s get better up front!

 

Brissett also didn't have LG Nelson (R) or RT Braden Smith (R).

I also think C Kelly missed almost half the season. Watch Kelly and see how many times he calls out presnap blocking adjustments.

 

Funny Buffalo could use a C, RT and LG.

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I think it will be a good year to be a decent UFA OLineman, because there are a lot of teams with mediocre lines.

Even the guys we let walk will get picked up somewhere.  Some biggish contracts coming.

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9 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Their RG is a free agent after this season.. Glowinski.  Just sayin 

They aren't breaking up that line. They have the money and the culture to attract him back. He would be a fool to leave.

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3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

Brissett also didn't have LG Nelson (R) or RT Braden Smith (R).

I also think C Kelly missed almost half the season. Watch Kelly and see how many times he calls out presnap blocking adjustments.

 

Funny Buffalo could use a C, RT and LG.

No reason we can't aquire all three in the off season whether via the draft or free agency. You want Allen to prosper? Give him the protection all QB's need! Mr GM, build us that wall! 😁

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5 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

Brissett also didn't have LG Nelson (R) or RT Braden Smith (R).

I also think C Kelly missed almost half the season. Watch Kelly and see how many times he calls out presnap blocking adjustments.

 

Funny Buffalo could use a C, RT and LG.

Don’t disagree but bringing back an all pro QB and and offensive minded coach doesn’t hurt is all I’m saying. 

 

I defintiely agree we need atleast 3 OL

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5 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

They aren't breaking up that line. They have the money and the culture to attract him back. He would be a fool to leave.

Yeah you’re probably right but you never know.  Good players get to free agency sometimes 

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I have been posting this for 20 years. As much as we need blocking, don't count on it. A first round corner would absolutely not shock me. In fact if my life depended on making the right guess, I would expect  to say hello to the corner from LSU at #9.

 

McClapper passed on Mahomes  and Watson to draft a corner. Why wouldn't he pass on a blocker?

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1 minute ago, hemma said:

I think it will be a good year to be a decent UFA OLineman, because there are a lot of teams with mediocre lines.

Even the guys we let walk will get picked up somewhere.  Some biggish contracts coming.

 

Yeah, a lot of mock draft team needs are OL.

 

Add to that multiple teams have cash to spend, and the OL is not deep in the draft this year.

 

If Buffalo really wants to address the OL, they may have to overpay a FA or draft unpopular positions early.

 

The Colts took a LG and RT in rounds 1 and 2 to invest in their franchise QB (and a terrific LB they didn't reach for)

 

They also took a TE (Ebron) and WR (Inman) off the scrap heap to add some offensive firepower.

 

I like the plan, and it fits this years scenario for Buffalo.

6 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said:

Don’t disagree but bringing back an all pro QB and and offensive minded coach doesn’t hurt is all I’m saying. 

 

I defintiely agree we need atleast 3 OL

 

We agree. My first post on TBD was a LAMP post to try to get Luck, when he was throwing 10-15 yd throws 😉

3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I have been posting this for 20 years. As much as we need blocking, don't count on it. A first round corner would absolutely not shock me. In fact if my life depended on making the right guess, I would expect  to say hello to the corner from LSU at #9.

 

McClapper passed on Mahomes  and Watson to draft a corner. Why wouldn't he pass on a blocker?

 

Maybe he wanted to evaluate what he had at QB in his first year.

Maybe he didn't want to pick a QB before the GM was onboard?

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Braden Smith is a rookie along with Quentin Nelson.  Ryan Kelly is a third year player, and Glowinski is a fourth year player claimed off waivers a year ago.  With good coaching and a smart GM, it doesn't take years to build a dominat O-line.

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7 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Yeah you’re probably right but you never know.  Good players get to free agency sometimes 

 

If we're talking Glowinski, it should be known Colts have the most cap space this offseason. $123 million and 40 players under contract.

 

Bills $88 million, 43 under contract

 

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

 

it looks like FA may, may bring in one improvement in FA. A lot of demand, a lot of free cap space, and only a few difference makers or improvements.

 

Otherwise its the draft, and OL is not deep. Will have to 'overdraft' OL.

Given the situation, I'm ok 'over drafting' a RT/ LG/ C

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Use the FA money to build a line of experienced professionals and keep josh safe. Not a bunch of rookies that are learning the pro game. Get just a pack of veteran maulers that have been coached up at the pro level and can come in and fix the run game on day 1. Use the draft for the skill positions. Fa WR/RB class is weak and the college Olineman are not developed. Fix the Oline in March and add the pass catchers and rbs in April.

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3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I have been posting this for 20 years. As much as we need blocking, don't count on it. A first round corner would absolutely not shock me. In fact if my life depended on making the right guess, I would expect  to say hello to the corner from LSU at #9.

 

McClapper passed on Mahomes  and Watson to draft a corner. Why wouldn't he pass on a blocker?

Ah, the ole McClapper reference. Still don't get the issue with McDermott clapping. Why is it such a big deal?

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11 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

If we're talking Glowinski, it should be known Colts have the most cap space this offseason. $123 million and 40 players under contract.

 

Bills $88 million, 43 under contract

 

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

 

it looks like FA may, may bring in one improvement in FA. A lot of demand, a lot of free cap space, and only a few difference makers or improvements.

 

Otherwise its the draft, and OL is not deep. Will have to 'overdraft' OL.

Given the situation, I'm ok 'over drafting' a RT/ LG/ C

I agree there are some teams with a lot of cap but not to the over drafting situation. OL is so different from other positions, starting OL is found in almost every round. If you look at just the sought after Centers becoming FAs they are UDFAs to 1st rounders. Gotta go BPA IMO. Hopefully it’s offense and potentially OL if it’s right. 

 

Either way way it sounds like we are on the same page. Let’s get this OL dominant and let Allen just toss bombs. 

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Strengthening the oline would solve multiple issues.  The bills defense had the worst starting field position in the league.  A better oline would likely fix that as well. 

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