Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 4:47 PM, wppete said: Yeah I agree. Castillo and Robiski weren’t Dabols guys and honestly this is a different NFL, both of them are older we need some young guys in here that are Dabols guys. You may be correct, but Robieski was hired after Daboll; do we know of a connection between McDermott and Robieski or some other reason why we think he's a Sean hire? The McDermott-Castillo connection is clear and well publicized Edit: I did find a connection between Daboll and Robieski. Daboll was OC of the Cleveland Browns when the Browns drafted...wait for it...Brian Robieski in the 2nd round. Brian Robieski is Terry Robieski's son. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Nextmanup said: This seems kind of harsh; there is only so much you can do with the WR talent on this team. 4 hours ago, Rubes said: One could have said the same thing about the O-line... There's talent and then there's knowledge and execution. Even a bottom-tier physical talent who can't separate on a route from a top-tier DB, or jump 31" into the air to snag a too-high throw should be able to know what his role is on each play call, line up in the correct spot, and run a crisp route. Maybe Castillo and Robieskie are just fall guys for the poor talent Beane gave them to work with Or maybe, to the guys who know what the play calls and assignments were, there were too many gaps where the guys didn't seem to Know Their Job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: There's talent and then there's knowledge and execution. Even a bottom-tier physical talent who can't separate on a route from a top-tier DB, or jump 31" into the air to snag a too-high throw should be able to know what his role is on each play call, line up in the correct spot, and run a crisp route. Maybe Castillo and Robieskie are just fall guys for the poor talent Beane gave them to work with Or maybe, to the guys who know what the play calls and assignments were, there were too many gaps where the guys didn't seem to Know Their Job. I know we've both commented on how our WRs often tried to catch balls with their bodies instead of their hands. I consider this a coaching issue. Would you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: I know we've both commented on how our WRs often tried to catch balls with their bodies instead of their hands. I consider this a coaching issue. Would you agree? It certainly seems like something one would try to address with coaching; I guess I'm uncertain if it's the sort of physical skill that's hard to change and tends to revert in the "heat of battle". I have just generally felt as though our WR are not a well-coached group - from how they get off the line, to how they run their routes, to their sideline awareness and on and on. Certainly how they catch (or don't) is part of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 its seems clear the young WR's need more than what they got last year. I hope this is the change we need not the one we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Georgie said: so, who ARE "Daboll's guys"? I haven't heard any names yet I'd guess anyone currently on the the Alabama coaching staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 5:47 PM, YoloinOhio said: Welp- that’s two WR coaches fired in 2 years I'm not sure what you can even expect from a WR coach with that crap he was handed. Outside of having a prior relationship with McDermott or Dabol, why would anyone want the job? 4 hours ago, Gugny said: I know we've both commented on how our WRs often tried to catch balls with their bodies instead of their hands. I consider this a coaching issue. Would you agree? I disagree. That's basic. I think that's more a product of lack of talent and the balls getting there quicker than they expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 To pin KB's failings on Robiskie seems unfair. Motivation has been an issue with him since he got into the league. The other regular wide receivers (Zay, Foster, and McKenzie) would appear to have benefitted from Robiskie's tutelage if you go by their production in previous years/systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Is it me, or does there seem to be a certain amount of scapegoating going on? Three positions that had absolutely abysmal talent-- O-line, special teams, and wide receiver-- and three coaches fires from those units... Not saying these guys should have stuck around necessarily (especially Crossman), but, it does make one think... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Is it me, or does there seem to be a certain amount of scapegoating going on? Three positions that had absolutely abysmal talent-- O-line, special teams, and wide receiver-- and three coaches fires from those units... Not saying these guys should have stuck around necessarily (especially Crossman), but, it does make one think... Chicken or egg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 7:37 AM, Captain Hindsight said: He's awful on the John Murphy Show. Like cant complete a thought bad. If that show didn't book great guests, it would be a joke This is talking about Tasker, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 45 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Is it me, or does there seem to be a certain amount of scapegoating going on? Three positions that had absolutely abysmal talent-- O-line, special teams, and wide receiver-- and three coaches fires from those units... Not saying these guys should have stuck around necessarily (especially Crossman), but, it does make one think... There's probably some scapegoating going on, sure There's also the saying when you point the finger and fire a guy you hired after 1-2 years, how many fingers are pointing back at you? OTOH, it may be Robiskie and Castillo simply didn't play well with Daboll, and perhaps the case could be made the talent was poor, but so was the level of preparation which goes to coaching. Daboll's seat ain't exactly secure and comfy for next season if there's not a significant offensive improvement, so one viewpoint would be he deserves to bring in his guys and give himself the best chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On January 3, 2019 at 8:37 AM, Captain Hindsight said: He's awful on the John Murphy Show. Like cant complete a thought bad. If that show didn't book great guests, it would be a joke I love Tasker on the show. Love how he stands up to the homer, John Murphy. Love how he gives the players prospective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 9:08 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: This is talking about Tasker, correct? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Reports: Terry Robiskie to become running backs coach with Jaguars Posted by Curtis Crabtree on January 15, 2019, 1:18 AM EST The Jacksonville Jaguars are set to hire Terry Robiskie as their new running backs coach, per multiple reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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