Alphadawg7 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I don’t play the what if game. The results were the results. But...how is it a what if game? I simply just pointed out that our final record isn’t as bleak as it first looks and that there was a lot to be excited about as the season ended. If you prefer to not look for optimistic signs in the season, all good, that’s your choice. Others like myself on the other hand prefer to look closer at things to see where we may be headed overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 The NFL season was one of the worst for talent and execution ever, nobody was consistently good and the Bills went 6–10..... 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: But...how is it a what if game? I simply just pointed out that our final record isn’t as bleak as it first looks and that there was a lot to be excited about as the season ended. If you prefer to not look for optimistic signs in the season, all good, that’s your choice. Others like myself on the other hand prefer to look closer at things to see where we may be headed overall. You are what your record says you are, a pathetic 6-10. But go ahead and spend hours sifting through it and tell yourself it really was an 11 win team LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: i would really love for us to take the division while Brady is still playing. I want us to be the reason why Brady retires after next season. It doesn't matter anymore, IMO. Brady and the Pats have already dominated for almost 2 decades. He's gonna retire comfortably, not distraught over the Bills finally winning the div.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay_Fixit Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: But...how is it a what if game? I simply just pointed out that our final record isn’t as bleak as it first looks and that there was a lot to be excited about as the season ended. If you prefer to not look for optimistic signs in the season, all good, that’s your choice. Others like myself on the other hand prefer to look closer at things to see where we may be headed overall. Because it can go both ways. And the games ended the way they ended. That’s how sports work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I understand the optimism. Allen is a diiferent level QB than the Bills have had this century. The completion % is a concern. It could go either way for Allen. But his talent and mentality give him a chance to be a true franchise QB. In general I believe this is the most stable and competent coaching staff and management team the Bills have had since Marv (the coach not the GM). It really does feel like they’re building a foundation to be consistently competitive the next few years. This year 6 - 10 is really where they deserved to be. Expect improvement in Allen’s 2nd year. But based on his inconsistency this year, his play was not better than the.500 winning %.he ended with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) The thing about our record that encourages me is we won 4 out of the last 7. We were trending up and even got a comeback win. This should get the guys that are left a reason to BELIEVE again. Josh's last game waS his best. also during the Chan Gailey era we were going all out to win and going 6-10. This team matches their record with scrubs and a tire fire smoldering mid season.I Gives me hope. go BILLS !!! Edited January 3, 2019 by reddogblitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, row_33 said: The NFL season was one of the worst for talent and execution ever, nobody was consistently good and the Bills went 6–10..... You are what your record says you are, a pathetic 6-10. But go ahead and spend hours sifting through it and tell yourself it really was an 11 win team LOL Except that’s not what I said at all, but all good Edited January 3, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I am not connecting the dots on this to the coaching staff. Really? Two offensive coaches have been fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, iinii said: Really? Two offensive coaches have been fired. That had nothing to do with who we fielded per the previous post I responded to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: That had nothing to do with who we fielded per the previous post I responded to. I read what you responded to. So were they innocent fall guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Mentioned this in other threads, but wanted to draw a little more attention to this fact as another indicator of optimism going into the offseason. Josh Allen was 5-5 in games he started and finished. However...while that is solid on its own for a rookie, especially considering all factors, think about this: Had it not been for a drop by Clay in Miami and a Special Teams blunder against the Jets, Allen would have been 7-3 as a starter. If he doesn't get hurt in Houston game, I think we most likely win that game which would have then also had him at 8-3 as a starter. Think about that for a second...Despite all of the following, Josh was literally 2 single plays by this team away from 7-3 and probably had another win taken away when he got hurt against Houston: Being a rookie who started the year off without a QB Vet around him either Not getting even half the reps in preseason and camp because he was in a 3 way QB battle Poor pass protection Terrible run blocking resulting in terrible run game (outside of himself) A WR1 for most of season that was slow, disinterested, sloppy and couldn't catch in KB A WR group as a whole that struggled with separation and catching most the year A TE who had probably his worst season in his career And a significantly down year for what was supposed to be our best offensive player in McCoy, who saw Ivory run more effectively than him I honestly think we will win the division next year between his continued development, having a year under his belt, a full offseason as unquestioned starter, and the additions we all expect to come in around him on the offense this year. I have the exact same feeling. This is the Pats Swan Song - next year they will be mediocre. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Top obstacle to overcome is the Patriots. Beating them in Foxboro is very difficult so the Bills have to beat them in Buffalo. Even though the final scores this season weren’t as one sided as they have been in the past, the Bills were never a serious threat to the Pats in those games. It is important to note: The Pats won't BE The PATS forever! Eventually they will return to being the pats ... ...and THAT day is coming very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Sammy isnt on his way out of the nfl. Consistent mediocrity; if he has matured he may get a few more years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Success said: I’d like to be in Boston the moment we win the division next year. There will be some interesting expressions. I really dont think many Pats fans would be upset if the Bills won the division in the near future. We all know that the reign is ending soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, vorpma said: Consistent mediocrity; if he has matured he may get a few more years! Consistant injuries yes. Mediocrity? I wouldnt call 500 yards and 3 TDs in 9 games mediocre, especially with a 72.7 catch percentage and a whole lot of other weapons on that team. The word mediocre is overused on this site. It means barely adequate. Sorry but that doesnt desribe Watkins. Often injured would be a fair arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Mentioned this in other threads, but wanted to draw a little more attention to this fact as another indicator of optimism going into the offseason. Josh Allen was 5-5 in games he started and finished. However...while that is solid on its own for a rookie, especially considering all factors, think about this: Had it not been for a drop by Clay in Miami and a Special Teams blunder against the Jets, Allen would have been 7-3 as a starter. If he doesn't get hurt in Houston game, I think we most likely win that game which would have then also had him at 8-3 as a starter. Think about that for a second...Despite all of the following, Josh was literally 2 single plays by this team away from 7-3 and probably had another win taken away when he got hurt against Houston: Being a rookie who started the year off without a QB Vet around him either Not getting even half the reps in preseason and camp because he was in a 3 way QB battle Poor pass protection Terrible run blocking resulting in terrible run game (outside of himself) A WR1 for most of season that was slow, disinterested, sloppy and couldn't catch in KB A WR group as a whole that struggled with separation and catching most the year A TE who had probably his worst season in his career And a significantly down year for what was supposed to be our best offensive player in McCoy, who saw Ivory run more effectively than him I honestly think we will win the division next year between his continued development, having a year under his belt, a full offseason as unquestioned starter, and the additions we all expect to come in around him on the offense this year. Another interesting view from 2018 season ... 7 of our 10 losses were against teams in the Playoffs (Pats -2, Bears, Colts, Chargers, Ravens, Texans) ... and 2 wins of 6 wins against teams that were playoff eligible (Win and your in) the last week of the season (Vikings and Colts) .. with the talent void listed above ... says alot of our defense and one man offense with Josh. Looking forward to 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 We have a starting QB. This is the best thing that came from the season. He looked a little spazzy at first but by the end of the season, while he was still making some mistakes, he was clearly in charge. For the first time in a long time, I feel like I can check off QB for a few years at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: Consistant injuries yes. Mediocrity? I wouldnt call 500 yards and 3 TDs in 9 games mediocre, especially with a 72.7 catch percentage and a whole lot of other weapons on that team. The word mediocre is overused on this site. It means barely adequate. Sorry but that doesnt desribe Watkins. Often injured would be a fair arguement. OK, I buy your argument, however, he has never lived up to first round status nor has he ever been an impact player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, vorpma said: OK, I buy your argument, however, he has never lived up to first round status nor has he ever been an impact player. For the most part due to injuries I would have to agree. He did have a stretch of 9 games with TT as his QB that he put top 5 numbers Top 3 if I remember correctly. Then he had surgery. Edited January 3, 2019 by formerlyofCtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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