GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: If he could land in a situation like Mahomes did, where he can develop for another year behind a vet on a stacked offensive team, that would be ideal. Yea I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: At #9 you are probably too far back for a blue chipper anyway.... though who knows.... maybe Ed Oliver's behaviour makes him slide. If he is on the board at #9 I'm picking him. The Bills likely wouldn't though. Why because he got in an argument with his coach about a jacket? Jordan Philips, who the Bills claimed after he fought with coach, is not nearly as talented. My bet, is they would run to the podium 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Why because he got in an argument with his coach about a jacket? Jordan Philips, who the Bills claimed after he fought with coach, is not nearly as talented. My bet, is they would run to the podium Hope you are right. That is what they should do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, DefenseWins said: So some think that he will get drafted high in the 1st round. How high and by which team? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/01/dwayne-haskins-makes-his-case-to-be-the-first-overall-pick/ Bust bust bust bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rad Likes The Bills Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I think he is raw. Top 10 he would really worry me. His feet are lazy and messy and when pressured I think his mechanics generally fall apart. I see plenty of big boy throws on the games I watched but I need to see him read the field a bit more and I also get that sense that this was an offense he was managing through instruction rather than one he was running himself. But he has played very well this season and I totally understand in the context of a weak QB class why he would decide to come out. He is the best of these in my opinion and with Herbert staying in school he is the one most likely to get pushed up. I don't have a 1st round grade on him on what I have watched but I do think he is the one QB who likely goes in the 1st round and he is in that Mahomes and Allen position to some extent where people are going to look very much at upside and forgive some of the rawness that is evident on his college film. Haskins will be a star if he is put in the right situation ( Giants behind Eli for a year would do wonders). He throws the ball with anticipation, great touch, and he is deadly accurate at all levels of the field. The only knock that i can see is that he doesnt have 20 + starts to validate his potential. But he carried OSU this year with no real running game. He elevated OSU's passing games to levels it has never seen... Edited January 2, 2019 by Rad Likes The Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Right, but it goes back to the Chris Ballard argument from last season. If you trade back in the draft, you lose out on a “premium pick.” So if you trade back, you have to consider what you’re missing out on by doing so. Basically the return has to be excellent, unless you don’t rank any top prospects Not really. The draft is a lottery. You trade back and you increase your chances of finding a player that is good. These GMs prove over and over they really don't know who is going to make it in the NFL. Do what Indy did. Trade back and still get a ProBowl guard plus multiple picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Not really. The draft is a lottery. You trade back and you increase your chances of finding a player that is good. These GMs prove over and over they really don't know who is going to make it in the NFL. Do what Indy did. Trade back and still get a ProBowl guard plus multiple picks. Ballard didn’t trade back out of the top 10, that’s the point. He traded from 3 to 6, and refused to trade back further because of the philolosophy mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) I think he and Drew Lock go top ten, guessing Giants and Jaguars. Though I'm not sure the Jags want to take a chance on a raw prospect again like Lock or Haskins. I could see the Jaguars going after Teddy Bridgewater. He's essentially the anti-Bortles. Edited January 2, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Was listening to Wingo and Golic this am and one of them thought he legitimately could go #1 overall. I am not that insane to think that, but...he very well could go top 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Related ... 25. Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State Haskins took advantage of another stellar performance from his offensive line in the first half against a high-quality Washington secondary in the Buckeyes' Rose Bowl win. The redshirt sophomore completed 67.6 percent of his passes with three touchdowns and no interceptions. His relatively low 6.78 yards-per-attempt average was mostly the byproduct of inefficiency in the second half when the Huskies were able to get some pressure. In the first two quarters though, Haskins demonstrated the ability to maneuver in the pocket away from on-coming defenders. He wasn't as proficient doing so in the second half. His accuracy and movement through progressions were outstanding. In terms of the bowl game, I thought it was far from one of his best performances. But Washington has one of the best pass defenses in the country and had allowed only 9 passing TDs all year. Haskins had 3 last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I never see him make contested throws into tight windows under pressure. Ever. In the rare instances where he has to speed up his clock, I've seen him make horrendous decisions, and/or lose his mechanics entirely and throw the ball into the dirt. He would scare the heck out of me as a first round pick, let alone a top ten pick. He's nowhere near the top four from the 2018 draft. Just don't see it with Haskins. I get that he came out of a prostyle offense but to me that's kind of the problem - he's able to put up big numbers in an offense that specializes in getting its playmakers "college open." He's extremely raw as a passer and I really don't know how well his game is going to translate to the NFL. I wouldn't touch him. But then again, I am no expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Not a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Was listening to Wingo and Golic this am and one of them thought he legitimately could go #1 overall. I am not that insane to think that, but...he very well could go top 5 Tis the season where QB's values begin to over-inflate, so this would not surprise me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, frostbitmic said: As with most of the Ohio State QB's lately, the question is can he catch the ball ? The question is actually, what similarities does he have to the two osu qbs who turned WR? If you can’t answer that, the joke is old and out of context. Edited January 2, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: The question is actually, what similarities does he have to the two osu qbs who turned WR? If you can’t answer that, the joke is old and out of context. I'm old and out of context too ... I wouldn't run to the podium to draft this guy though, I think he'll be a bust ... JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I'm old and out of context too ... I wouldn't run to the podium to draft this guy though, I think he'll be a bust ... JMO. I have no idea if he will be good in the nfl. I don’t know how to professionally scout QBs. I do know that he is unlike any other QB osu has had. And polar opposite of the ones you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIrvine Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 The Raiders will draft him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 If the conventional wisdom is correct (QB needy teams will over draft prospects out of need) then Dwayne Haskins, and probably Drew Lock and Daniel Jones will get drafted in the first round, and one might get drafted in the tope 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Solid pass on him at this point. Just don't trust tOSU QB's, though they play in a real division and not a watered down SEC or ACC. I think the kid is talented but lacks what ya need for a real chance at the NFL. Yep, just say NO to any Ohio State QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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