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How Much Pressure Was Doug Whaley Under To Win?

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9 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

It's a good thing McD never did anything similar, like signing Trent Murphy ...

 

Very bad comparison. 

 

Yeah it’s not really a ridiculous deal and they can get out of it after year 2.

 

Anderson was signed for an extra year, for more guaranteed money than Murphy and this was nearly a decade ago.  

 

Plus as disappointing as Murphy has been, he triple the production of Anderson’s only season with the Bills in limited time.  

 

Also Anderson was signed to a 4 year deal and was so bad, he never played in the league again after year 1.  They ate dead cap space for years since he was so bad.  

 

If you want to say both players are examples of disappoint FA Defensive Ends, then fine.  But...these more are not the same.  Anderson was worse

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1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

 

Since Donahoe, Bills purposely muddied the management structure so accountability of the media and fans was always scatter-shot.  When things got too hot, they would simply sacrifice someone, much of the blame for the bad moves would go out with that individual, and everyone remaining would take a half step to the left with a slightly different job title or promotion.

 

Decisions were absolutely made by Brandon, Littman, Overdorf, Ralph, Whaley, Rex, Jauron, Modrak, Guy, Pegulas, Pegulas' dog, and god knows who else.  They suffered for years from not having a centralized power structure, and if it was centralized, it was on Russ Brandon for years.  Whaley would have probably done his NFL career some good if he resigned.  Maybe he knew that this job was his only shot he would ever get at GM?

 

We really do not know what we had with Whaley, as the team had such a collaborative philosophy and information about who made what decisions were so overlapped and foggy.  I do know his public persona on camera and behind a mic was pretty poor, and listening to him, he doesn't seem like a leader of an organization, nor a guy who is detail oriented to a fault.   You listen to Beane, McDermott, Botterill, etc and a number of other executives and even modern day NFL coaches and they come off so well put together.  Whaley and Tim Murray are basically scouts upjumped to General Managers, they sounded like scouts publicly, and I do not see either of them holding an NFL or NHL GM job again.

 

Well put.  Again, this remains Ralph Wilson's biggest scar on his legacy, in my opinion.

 

The team also restricted access to these people to a point where there was limited to no oversight from "the fourth branch of government".

 

It's frustrating not one outlet, from The Buffalo News, WGR, or any local TV stations ever once did the "who are any of these people?" feature. 

 

We talk a lot about what fans are "owed" from their perennially losing pro sports franchises. All I want is honesty, which we never get.

 

Not to pivot, but whatever the hell happened on July 1st, 2007 with the Sabres? It's been 12 years. Chris Drury SHOULD speak on the record to the fans. It's more than deserved. The Sabres have not recovered from that fateful day.  The least they could do is get us closure. 

 

To this day, there's not 1 quote on record from the former Sabres captain about it. This is abhorrent. 

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Probably the same pressure that every other coach and GM are under in this league.

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14 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said:

 

Very bad comparison. 

 

Yeah it’s not really a ridiculous deal and they can get out of it after year 2.

 

Anderson was signed for an extra year, for more guaranteed money than Murphy and this was nearly a decade ago.  

 

Plus as disappointing as Murphy has been, he triple the production of Anderson’s only season with the Bills in limited time.  

 

Also Anderson was signed to a 4 year deal and was so bad, he never played in the league again after year 1.  They ate dead cap space for years since he was so bad.  

 

If you want to say both players are examples of disappoint FA Defensive Ends, then fine.  But...these more are not the same.  Anderson was worse

Yes, Anderson was worse. We know that in hindsight. Anderson provided nothing. Murphy played sparingly but was reasonably effective in his one season so far. But that's not the point. The point is whether these were smart signings at the time. Anderson was a dumb signing at the time; so was Murphy.

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