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8 minutes ago, the skycap said:

He's played for a team with no QB threat. Teams played to stop him and make Jags QBs beat you. Don't fret though, he'll end up in NE, thrash the Bills two times a year and allow Brady to play two more years

 

 

Bortles threw for more yards than Mariota or Rosen or Dalton, yet their RBs were all close to or over 1000 yards.  Who was the QB threat in SF?  A guy named Matt Breida had 814 yards.

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31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Bortles threw for more yards than Mariota or Rosen or Dalton, yet their RBs were all close to or over 1000 yards.  Who was the QB threat in SF?  A guy named Matt Breida had 814 yards.

Mariota, Rosen and Dalton all are threats to beat you with their arms. Let's not downplay what Nick Mullens did through the air for the Niners

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He was a terrible pick and doesn’t fit the new nfl at all.  They used a top 5 pick on LeGarrett Blount.

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3 hours ago, Magox said:

I'd give up a 2nd for him.   I'm much higher on him than most the opinions I've seen here.  The guy can catch the ball contrary to popular belief and he's an agile straight up truck, which is just the kind of running we need with this team.

Yeah the ppl saying he sucks are crazy. The guy was a beast his rookie year. We also could NOT tackle him a few months ago. Jags fell off as a whole this year and bortles is garbage. That is the real problem there

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17 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Yeah the ppl saying he sucks are crazy. The guy was a beast his rookie year. We also could NOT tackle him a few months ago. Jags fell off as a whole this year and bortles is garbage. That is the real problem there

He averaged 3.9 ypc and can’t catch the ball.  He doesn’t suck but he isn’t a rb you spend a top 5 pick on.

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On 12/30/2018 at 11:15 PM, BillyWhiteShows said:

...Waste of a #4 pick

Yeah, never understood drafting him when they had Yeldon and Ivory already

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1 hour ago, the skycap said:

Mariota, Rosen and Dalton all are threats to beat you with their arms. Let's not downplay what Nick Mullens did through the air for the Niners

 

Rosen was not a threat to beat anyone with his arm this year and teams knew that: 4 games over 200 yards, 6 games under 150.

 

MAriota's passing game was 29th in yards and 31st in attempts.  Not threatening...

 

Bad as Bortles is perceived to be, he had 4 games over 300 yards in 12 starts.

 

Nick Mullens had some moments but in half his starts, he had as many or more INTs as TDs.

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32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Can't help but wonder if this is Jacksonville trying to regain some value for him so teams are circling like sharks with blood in the water but we'll see. I kinda figured they'd keep him even if it's just out of pride considering where they drafted him.

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1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He averaged 3.9 ypc and can’t catch the ball.  He doesn’t suck but he isn’t a rb you spend a top 5 pick on.

Part of that ypc was because of bortles.

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

amazing how crystal clear the wisdom can become when someone realizes he can't keep cashing them checks.

 

 

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I wouldn't want that a-hole head case on my team. One of the most overrated rbs in the league imo. 

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On 12/30/2018 at 11:15 PM, BillyWhiteShows said:

...Waste of a #4 pick

 

Mahommes was available at 4, and even though every other team would give up a lot for him now, the Bills apparently are the only team GUILTY of not picking him.

 

see other thread.

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7 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He was a terrible pick and doesn’t fit the new nfl at all.  They used a top 5 pick on LeGarrett Blount.

 

With the durability of Fred Taylor

 

7 hours ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Yeah the ppl saying he sucks are crazy. The guy was a beast his rookie year. We also could NOT tackle him a few months ago. Jags fell off as a whole this year and bortles is garbage. That is the real problem there

 

To be fair, Gurley wasn’t good his 2nd year either after being a beast his rookie year.  Not saying he is the same level as Gurley, but a bad OL and a bad QB makes the job of the RB very hard.  Rams rebuilt the OL, added 3 new good WRs, a second TE threat and had their rookie QB take a big leap forward all heading into Gurleys 3rd season and he was a beast again.

 

So anyone dismissing him this soon is crazy.  However, the bigger concern is his injury history.  He’s a good RB trapped on a limp offense, but he can’t stay on field consistently enough.  

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8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

With the durability of Fred Taylor

 

 

To be fair, Gurley wasn’t good his 2nd year either after being a beast his rookie year.  Not saying he is the same level as Gurley, but a bad OL and a bad QB makes the job of the RB very hard.  Rams rebuilt the OL, added 3 new good WRs, a second TE threat and had their rookie QB take a big leap forward all heading into Gurleys 3rd season and he was a beast again.

 

So anyone dismissing him this soon is crazy.  However, the bigger concern is his injury history.  He’s a good RB trapped on a limp offense, but he can’t stay on field consistently enough.  

Agree and I won’t give up on hmm.  He just doesn’t have the burst or versatility that I want from a modern rb.  Imo, a rb now needs to be a guy who can be a good receiver as well.  The Jags still think this is the 1960s football. 

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if the Jags drop him they'll be the next 0 - 16 team. They have nothing else. He still has value and would be a great cold weather player. After we'd had the likes of OJ, Travis Henry and Willis McGahee I can't believe all the moralizing about character at RB.

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8 hours ago, pop gun said:

Yeah, never understood drafting him when they had Yeldon and Ivory already

 

I believe the issue was they had Yeldon and ivory. That’s not a great backfield. 

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Agree and I won’t give up on hmm.  He just doesn’t have the burst or versatility that I want from a modern rb.  Imo, a rb now needs to be a guy who can be a good receiver as well.  The Jags still think this is the 1960s football. 

 

The dude has like 60 catches. It’s not like he’s a total bum in the passing game just cause he’s not hunt/kamara 

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On 12/30/2018 at 10:15 PM, BillsVet said:

Fournette is quickly becoming Trent Richardson 2.0

 

Acknowledging that you're out of shape, getting into on-field fights, and all while on a team overseen by Tom Coughlin is not the way to start a career.  

Fournette is leagues better than Trent. Literally. He'll last far longer in the NFL than Trent's 3-4 year rapid outting.

 

Trent isn't NFL talent. Dude can't even run straight.. through a hole. His lack of ball carrier vision was mind boggling.

 

Fournette's got injury and attitude issues. But he at least belongs. No way he's out of the NFL for lack of talent in the near future. Probably drafted too high, but that's where the comparison ends. At the very worst he'll carve out a Blount-like journeyman role to any team that needs a strong cheap plug in their running game as a 1-3 year's rental. He's more Blount 2.0

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12 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

problem childs aren't coming here.

 

 

This isn't a Brown situation. It isn't great, but we will be taking on players with issues, as we have in the past year (Jordan Phillips).

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On 1/11/2019 at 11:46 AM, N.Y. Orangeman said:

This isn't a Brown situation. It isn't great, but we will be taking on players with issues, as we have in the past year (Jordan Phillips).

 

Not Brown, he has a diva issue that McD doesn't tolerate. Coach wants All -IN players, not self centered ones. You can have problems but not football problems.

 

 

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Why do people think the Bills would go after a guy that attacked one of our own?

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On 1/10/2019 at 3:44 PM, BillsSbSoon said:

Part of that ypc was because of bortles.

 

Part of that ypc is he’s always hurt. 

 

 

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