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22 minutes ago, dneveu said:

Can they void the bonus money and keep him??  That doesn't really make sense.  I could see them maybe getting out of the bonus money if they release him maybe?  It's a fully guaranteed contract and he was docked game checks for every game he missed due to suspensions.

 

Fournette's never really had production - his career rush average is sub 4.0.

No they can't void bonus money. Yes they get refunded for games while he's suspended, and can even demand a refund for the portion of the bonus money attributed to the games missed by suspension.

 

What's voided is his remaining future guarantees, which means his guaranteed salary (2019 - 2020) is no longer guaranteed.

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33 minutes ago, Mountain Man said:

It's the guarantes that are voided not the money. They are paying him the same amount as before, but it's no longer guaranteed. So they can cut him and have no dead money

 

Ah - he's probably fine with it too.  Toxic team down there.

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The way he runs is not the way you want a pro to run. As a pro you must advoid contact as much as possible- no long term back beside AP looks for contact and survives amd even he has lost entire seasons.

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He’s definitely not good. I think he’s borderline the most overrated player in the league. I will say though he absolutely ran us over and had he not been thrown out, we would have lost that game. For whatever reason he brought it that day but overall I still don’t think he’s good.

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Punishing a player for sticking up for the team on the field?

Even if out of line thats not enough.

 

 

There was def bad blood brewing, its probobly a lot of things combined not just the fight. I could imagine Fortunette and a 2nd or 3rd round pick going to Oakland for Derrek Carr. 

 

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I'd much rather have Yeldon. LF cant catch. Allen needs a dual threat at RB. LF would of been a HOFer in the 70s or 80s but not in today's NFL. If he came at the veteran minimum...... maybe.. 

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Stupid pick by the Jags to begin with at pick 4...dude wasn't ever going to be a Gurley/Barkley type generational back in the NFL...they basically turned the clock back to 1984 with that pick...

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On 12/30/2018 at 11:34 PM, BillsVet said:

 

Well, if oranges come in red and are in the red delicious box at the store, then yes:  

 

Richardson in 2012: 15 gp / 267 carries / 950 yards / 3.6 avg /11 TD in 2013: 16 gp / 188 carries / 563 yards / 3.0 avg / 3 TD

Fournette in 2017: 13 gp / 268 carries / 1040 yards / 3.9 avg / 9 TD in 2018: 8 gp / 133 carries / 439 yards / 3.3 avg / 5 TD

Umm he was a beast his rookie year! People stacked the boss stop Fournette.. also look at your stats..

 

Fournette equaled or surpassed Richardson playing in HALF the games.  They are not the same player by any means.. also in year 2 Richardson had Andrew freakjbgvLuck as his QB and put up those numbers.. while Fournette still had Blake “how the heck I get an extension” Bortles!

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23 hours ago, DCOrange said:

If Jacksonville releases Fournette, I might show interest. I don't really want to be paying a two-down RB who isn't all that good on those two downs the amount of money Jacksonville is currently paying him though.

We can send shaq to pick him up from the airport

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19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

It's not like defenses had to be concerned with any of their QBs.

 

The team, as a whole, regressed this season.  I don't think Fournette's performance in 2018 is an indictment of his ability.

 

With a glaring need at the position and a good amount of cap room, if he's released, you better believe McBeane will be all over it.

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Fournette may never be healthy.  However, he also was over used in Jacksonville.  Bortles could only throw 3 routes, and teams stacked the box begging them to throw.  I would offer a mid rd pick for him in a heartbeat.  Power running game with Allen will be deadly.  This offseason Buffalo needs to sign a veteran and draft 1.  

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1 minute ago, Mat68 said:

Fournette may never be healthy.  However, he also was over used in Jacksonville.  Bortles could only throw 3 routes, and teams stacked the box begging them to throw.  I would offer a mid rd pick for him in a heartbeat.  Power running game with Allen will be deadly.  This offseason Buffalo needs to sign a veteran and draft 1.  

 

He had a full workload as a rookie, but wasn't that over-used. 

 

No reason to spend high dollars and/or trade value on a guy with a crap attitude.  They should draft a RB in the mid-rounds.

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He couldn't stay healthy at LSU. Smells of PEDs but maybe its just bad luck.

No need to draft a RB that high. They are the product of the o-line and to some degree the QB situation.  

My hunch is they can't void his contract guarantees so easily. His suspension really wasn't for off the field behavior like AP. 

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I'd give up a 2nd for him.   I'm much higher on him than most the opinions I've seen here.  The guy can catch the ball contrary to popular belief and he's an agile straight up truck, which is just the kind of running we need with this team.

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On 12/31/2018 at 1:07 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Yikes!  How about they just move on?  Bills need to draft a RB, not continue with declining production vets.

 

Sheesh...

Um ... isn't he 23? He's clearly talented. I'm not saying that I want this to happen, mind you, but he's hardly a "declining vet."

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14 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Um ... isn't he 23? He's clearly talented. I'm not saying that I want this to happen, mind you, but he's hardly a "declining vet."

 

He's also the right body type to counter the trend towards permanent nickel/dime defense that we're seeing.  Defenses are smaller and faster, not the worst time to be able to run heavy between the tackles.  

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11 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Um ... isn't he 23? He's clearly talented. I'm not saying that I want this to happen, mind you, but he's hardly a "declining vet."

 

He's 23.  3rd year vet coming up.

 

He went from 3.9 to 3.3 YPC.  Steep decline.

 

He's being dangled by a team that is desperate for offensive playmakers.

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10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

He's also the right body type to counter the trend towards permanent nickel/dime defense that we're seeing.  Defenses are smaller and faster, not the worst time to be able to run heavy between the tackles.  

 

I'd take him in a heartbeat.  He's the only guy on that team with any life in them.  i bet he'd come here with a giant chip on his should to the rest of the league, and if he could buy into the process, be a dominant back for a long time.  He's in a terrible situation in Jax and clearly wants out, i think that was reflected in his attitude the second half of this year

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55 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He's 23.  3rd year vet coming up.

 

He went from 3.9 to 3.3 YPC.  Steep decline.

 

He's being dangled by a team that is desperate for offensive playmakers.

He's played for a team with no QB threat. Teams played to stop him and make Jags QBs beat you. Don't fret though, he'll end up in NE, thrash the Bills two times a year and allow Brady to play two more years

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9 minutes ago, the skycap said:

He's played for a team with no QB threat. Teams played to stop him and make Jags QBs beat you. Don't fret though, he'll end up in NE, thrash the Bills two times a year and allow Brady to play two more years

 

The Pats would much enjoy have this man on the roster, run him when it was optimal and not running him when the passing game was working fine that given game.

 

 

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