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This is why that dude held out in Chicago this year...first offests..this is the new battleground for rookies

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2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

This is why that dude held out in Chicago this year...first offests..this is the new battleground for rookies

 

They have been crushed by the new rules, it can hardly be worth it to those without obvious star power down the road

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Just now, row_33 said:

 

They have been crushed by the new rules, it can hardly be worth it to those without obvious star power down the road

i dont understand

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Just now, plenzmd1 said:

i dont understand

 

Sorry you don’t understand.

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8 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

https://apnews.com/27d7520db8684cedabf9fe02abb55382

 

The Jaguars have notified Fournette that his suspension late last month voided the remaining guarantees in his four-year rookie contract, according to a person familiar with the situation. The person spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity Sunday night. The person said the Jaguars notified Fournette of the action weeks ago. Fournette could challenge the decision.

 

If I were the Bills management, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. The perfect back for what this team needs going forward.

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So this is one of those things teams have the power to do but rarely execute?   Sounds like a Coughlin type of thing to do but at the same time, some of these players need to see there are consequences to their dumb actions   

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7 minutes ago, wppete said:

Trade Shady and a 3rd round pick for him. 

What did Shady ever do to you that you would subject him to playing for Marrone? That's like asking to put a horse down just because he seemed slower in his last few races...

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I think Fornette is talented but I don't see him being a Zeke, Gurley, Bell or Barkley type difference maker. He is a dam fine power runner but not a capable receiver and not elite at pushing between the tackles either. I think he has top 10 RB talent but when you draft him at pick 4 you want a top 5 elite RB. I think Jacksonville dumps him for a early 3rd or late 2nd round pick this off-season. It cuts their losses while another team gets very good talent on the cheap. I don't think he would be worth trading for if you are the Bills. Too much of a headcase and malcontent for McBeane even if it cost the team a 3rd rounder I just don't see the fit. 

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If Jacksonville releases Fournette, I might show interest. I don't really want to be paying a two-down RB who isn't all that good on those two downs the amount of money Jacksonville is currently paying him though.

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13 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

I'd still take a flier on him on a one year prove it deal if available. Him n Shady as a 1A and 1B  could be interesting. If he doesn't buy in cut him Immediately. 

We're not getting Fournette on a one year prove it deal. He's still got a lot of value. At his age, there would be multiple teams vying for his services. If he were 28, suddenly these character issues would be much more serious and a full stop red flag. Just the way it is.

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Say what you will about Fournette, but this is a dumb move by Jags.

 

He wasn't suspended for PED's or flaking on a team meeting.  He was suspended for (whether you agree with it or not) defending his teammate who was pushed by Shaq Lawson.  And because of that your going to take $7 million out of his pocket?

 

This is a bad look for a team that struggles in the first place to get quality FA's.  I've never heard of a team doing this to a player for this reason, and if I"m a FA looking for a new team with GTD money, the last place I would consider signing onto is Jacksonville.

 

 

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would we have to let him and shaq battle it out in the octagon first if we were to sign him?

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13 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

I'd still take a flier on him on a one year prove it deal if available. Him n Shady as a 1A and 1B  could be interesting. If he doesn't buy in cut him Immediately. 

 

 

Yikes!  How about they just move on?  Bills need to draft a RB, not continue with declining production vets.

 

Sheesh...

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5 hours ago, CSBill said:

 

If I were the Bills management, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. The perfect back for what this team needs going forward.

And toxic for the locker room.

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14 hours ago, BillsVet said:

Fournette is quickly becoming Trent Richardson 2.0

 

Acknowledging that you're out of shape, getting into on-field fights, and all while on a team overseen by Tom Coughlin is not the way to start a career.  

Trent Richardson sucked. Worst runningback IQ I've seen. Fournette's just a head case. But so so so much better. There's way better comparisons to make here lol.

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12 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Trent Richardson sucked. Worst runningback IQ I've seen. Fournette's just a head case. But so so so much better. There's way better comparisons to make here lol.

 

the effect of expecting Bama skill players to be of much use in real NFL football.... :D

 

works great with a system that whips Citadel though

 

(there are a few exceptions over the last 50 years....)

 

 

 

 

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Can they void the bonus money and keep him??  That doesn't really make sense.  I could see them maybe getting out of the bonus money if they release him maybe?  It's a fully guaranteed contract and he was docked game checks for every game he missed due to suspensions.

16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Yikes!  How about they just move on?  Bills need to draft a RB, not continue with declining production vets.

 

Sheesh...

 

Fournette's never really had production - his career rush average is sub 4.0.

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11 minutes ago, dneveu said:

Can they void the bonus money and keep him??  That doesn't really make sense.  I could see them maybe getting out of the bonus money if they release him maybe?  It's a fully guaranteed contract and he was docked game checks for every game he missed due to suspensions.

 

Fournette's never really had production - his career rush average is sub 4.0.

 

RB stats on their own are of little value in the context of the way the games are played out in real time.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, dneveu said:

Can they void the bonus money and keep him??  That doesn't really make sense.  I could see them maybe getting out of the bonus money if they release him maybe?  It's a fully guaranteed contract and he was docked game checks for every game he missed due to suspensions.

It's the guarantes that are voided not the money. They are paying him the same amount as before, but it's no longer guaranteed. So they can cut him and have no dead money

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