Hebert19 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Feels like we could be. Allen and Mitch are very similar quarterbacks. Mitch was not good in first year and is still inconsistent. But arm talent and scrambling abilities are there. Their defense a year ago vs ours was pretty similar as well. Need to add an impact player or 2 but that's not impossible. We need to add some skill players on offense but even the coordinator styles are similar. And finally the big piece is their division vs ours. The north had a down year. I expect the east to be similar next year. No new England dominance. And jets and dolphins will be meh. A good draft and good signings and we could be 11-4 at this time next year. What do we need? On D. Cb2, LB, DE and depth. On O RB1, WR1, OT, OG, TE1 Not impossible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Feels like we could be. Allen and Mitch are very similar quarterbacks. Mitch was not good in first year and is still inconsistent. But arm talent and scrambling abilities are there. Their defense a year ago vs ours was pretty similar as well. Need to add an impact player or 2 but that's not impossible. We need to add some skill players on offense but even the coordinator styles are similar. And finally the big piece is their division vs ours. The north had a down year. I expect the east to be similar next year. No new England dominance. And jets and dolphins will be meh. A good draft and good signings and we could be 11-4 at this time next year. What do we need? On D. Cb2, LB, DE and depth. On O RB1, WR1, OT, OG, TE1 Not impossible. My buddy is a huge bears fan and I was just telling him the exact same thing the other day. Lots of similarities between both teams if you compare bears team of last year to this years bills team and what appears to be on the horizon for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The idea of the Bears as the model for the Bills to follow with a strong defense and a young QB to support with a good supporting cast has been widely discussed here on TSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I don’t like the comparison. The strength of the Bears D is their front 7. The strength of the Bills D is the secondary. The Bears have two capable young backs who compliment each other well, the Bills have two old backs who look toast. The Bears have an NFL caliber oline, the Bills oline couldn’t block a grandma from the clearance rack. Nagy/McD totally different style of football and that is reflected most by their QBs. Trubisky is being set up with short creative concepts, the Bills keep bringing in more speed so Allen can chuck it deep. The only similarities I see are both teams having mobile quarterbacks. The rest is a reach, probably trying to get your hopes up that the team will make a similar turn around with a 2nd year QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, CommonCents said: I don’t like the comparison. The strength of the Bears D is their front 7. The strength of the Bills D is the secondary. The Bears have two capable young backs who compliment each other well, the Bills have two old backs who look toast. The Bears have an NFL caliber oline, the Bills oline couldn’t block a grandma from the clearance rack. Nagy/McD totally different style of football and that is reflected most by their QBs. Trubisky is being set up with short creative concepts, the Bills keep bringing in more speed so Allen can chuck it deep. And as to the bolded those pieces were in place before the 2018 offseason. The Bills front seven is probably in a similar place as the Bears front seven was prior to Smith and obviously Mack.... so if Edmunds steps up we just need to find that elite pass rusher (easier said than done).... but on offense I agree totally we have further to go than the Bears had. Their Oline was already good and their backs were already in place. Sign a couple of FA WRs and a FA TE and draft another WR and add water and serve... was basically the Bears recipe..... the Bills have a lot more work to do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 So the Bills need FIVE new starters on Offense...including three out for skill positions. Sounds like a prayer to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The Bills don't have a game changer like Tarik Cohen who can take every touch to the house. They also don't have and won't get anybody close to Kalil Mack on defense. The Bears got a gift due to Gruden's incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So the Bills need FIVE new starters on Offense...including three out for skill positions. Sounds like a prayer to me. Atleast that many. It’s not reasonable to expect a leap like the Bears made. Maybe in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I think this is a great topic and i was saying something like this on another post. The comparision is more like pre Mack. Now yes both teams had different stenghts and weaknesses but if had to compare our team with any previous one it would defintely be the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DBilz2500 said: My buddy is a huge bears fan and I was just telling him the exact same thing the other day. Lots of similarities between both teams if you compare bears team of last year to this years bills team and what appears to be on the horizon for the Bills. I remember the 13-3 Dick Jauron Bears, thst turned out great starting the first day of the next season..... Edited December 28, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 After the 2017 Season ended I turned to my PaPa and said “PaPa...you know who should mimick the LA RAMS model? The Bears. They have a 1st Round QB who is struggling under a Defense Minded Head Coach. They should move on from him...bring in a Younger, Hot Offensive Minded Head Coach and use all their money to build around him.” Who knew?! ? ? ? So I think the Bills can only go so far as to being the next Rams or the next Bears. They can spend like those teams and maybe even make some trades. i don’t think they would be able to land the level of player like Mack in the offseason. And they are in no way going to be bringing in a Hot Offensive Minded Head Coach to hold Allen to a higher level/standard that really you see only more from Offensive Playcalling Head Coaches over their Defensive Minded counterparts. Go check out some Mic’d up footage of the way Nagy talks to Trub before a game/during a game. It’s another level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I think we'll be closer to the 2018 Bills in 2019, than the 2018 Bears. But the 2020 Bills will be more like the 2012 Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 If the Pats crumble then 6 wins could take the division next year, that would be thrilling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 We need a Khalil Mack. That dude changed the team more than anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: We need a Khalil Mack. That dude changed the team more than anyone. And a division with talent levels lower than whale vomit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Only if we get handed the best defensive player in the game and get an offensive coach with actual nfl success. But let’s just cross our fingers and hope Daboll finally can do it in his 20th year of coaching!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Hopefully we will find out in the Superbowl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Hey, let’s make sure to pick a team that does surprisingly well every season and hypnotize ourselves into thinking the Bills can make a wish and play like that immediately!’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Bears were smart to retain their DC even when hiring a new head coach. That rarely happens. If Frasier goes hopefully McD finds another DC that will work well with these players. Bear like the Bills had to invest a lot in their offense this past off season and it paid off. Bills obviously need to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Depends. Where’s our Khalil Mack? Our Tarik Cohen? Edited December 28, 2018 by JoPar_v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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