Kirby Jackson Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I LOVE this!! As far as I am concerned the Jets are the other team on the rise in this division. Harbaugh ASSURES that they will never win big games. I’ll miss him at ttun but will be thrilled to have him in the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: How many great QB's have come out of Michigan? Really? Tom Brady is the GOAT and Elvis Grbac and Jim Harbaugh had solid careers. How many schools have produced BETTER NFL QB's? Probably a few, but not many. Edit; Grbac pretty much sucked but I stand by my point. You'd be hard pressed to name multiple schools that produced multiple elite quarterbacks. It's a rather odd take to say Michigan QB's suck. You could make a case that a few have been busts.(Griese, Collins) Even they weren't total failures in the league. Edited December 24, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Really? Tom Brady is the GOAT and Elvis Grbac and Jim Harbaugh had solid careers. How many schools have produced BETTER NFL QB's? Probably a few, but not many. Edit; Grbac pretty much sucked but I stand by my point. You'd be hard pressed to name multiple schools that produced multiple elite quarterbacks. It's a rather odd take to say Michigan QB's suck. You could make a case that a few have been busts.(Griese, Collins) Even they weren't total failures in the league. First off, I am a Michigan fan. They have had some very good QB's in the past, but they did not translate to NFL success. Elvis Grbac & Jim Harbaugh had their moments, but they weren't great. Same thing goes for Chad Henne. Tom Brady is part of a cheating culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I think we can take him. Bring it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I LOVE this!! As far as I am concerned the Jets are the other team on the rise in this division. Harbaugh ASSURES that they will never win big games. I’ll miss him at ttun but will be thrilled to have him in the AFC East. Come on Kirby! He nearly won the SB with Kaepernick, who according to some here is the worst qb ever. He turned around Stanford. Michigan sucked before him. He’s like a model who is getting picked apart because she isn’t the top model. But she’s still a model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I don't care for some of Jim Harbaugh's antics, but he's a fine coach, most especially to start his tenure. I would prefer he not be coaching in our division but that's not my call. Harbaugh, despite the khakis and self picture photographs is one heck a coach. It seems as though his message wore thin in San Francisco but that doesn't mean I want to see 3 years of "good" Harbaugh. Hopefully the boys in Anne Arbor make him a couter offer if this comes to some kind of head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 So 3 years of a good team then fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Probably gets the Jets to 9 or 10 wins only to be out coached in the playoffs every year making the losses more painful.. he is just a horrible big game coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I LOVE this!! As far as I am concerned the Jets are the other team on the rise in this division. Harbaugh ASSURES that they will never win big games. I’ll miss him at ttun but will be thrilled to have him in the AFC East. Of course.....the games they play against the Bills will not be big games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Come on Kirby! He nearly won the SB with Kaepernick, who according to some here is the worst qb ever. He turned around Stanford. Michigan sucked before him. He’s like a model who is getting picked apart because she isn’t the top model. But she’s still a model. He will never (and has never) won the big one. I think Harbaugh sucks. He is too volitale. He gets wound so tight that his team’s no-show in big games (outside of the 2nd half of the Super Bowl). I would be thrilled if he went to the Jets. Just now, KD in CA said: Of course.....the games they play against the Bills will not be big games. That’s a different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Really? Tom Brady is the GOAT and Elvis Grbac and Jim Harbaugh had solid careers. How many schools have produced BETTER NFL QB's? Probably a few, but not many. Edit; Grbac pretty much sucked but I stand by my point. You'd be hard pressed to name multiple schools that produced multiple elite quarterbacks. It's a rather odd take to say Michigan QB's suck. You could make a case that a few have been busts.(Griese, Collins) Even they weren't total failures in the league. Obviously Purdue AKA QB U: 2 HOF-ers in Len Dawson and Bob Griese, and Drew Brees along with many other respectable to fine NFL QBs such as the legendary Kyle Orton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 hours ago, peterpan said: Bills fans never cease to amaze. Well whatever team you are a fan of must not be good either since you are here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 ....breaking news....the Jets have manned up to deny the Harbaugh rumors...."Todd Bowles is our head football coach"...........case closed (COUGH).... Jim Harbaugh NFL Rumors: Jets claim 'no truth to the report' of interest in chasing Michigan coach New York denied the report that they want to hire Jim Harbaugh away from Michigan by Will Brinson @WillBrinson 4h ago • 2 min read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Rico said: Obviously Purdue AKA QB U: 2 HOF-ers in Len Dawson and Bob Griese, and Drew Brees along with many other respectable to fine NFL QBs such as the legendary Kyle Orton. Yeah. That would definitely be better on aggregate than Michigan, but there aren't MANY schools that have multiple hall of famers. I wouldn't single Michigan out as a school that doesn't turn out good NFL QB's. That's all I'm saying. Can't think of a single Ohio State NFL success story at QB. Maybe Mike Tomscak or the great Bobby Hoying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He will never (and has never) won the big one. I think Harbaugh sucks. He is too volitale. He gets wound so tight that his team’s no-show in big games (outside of the 2nd half of the Super Bowl). I would be thrilled if he went to the Jets. That’s a different issue. That’s such an easy narrative and kinda silly in football. Was Peyton a bum before he won a SB? If Harbaugh wins a SB or national championship, he is considered a great coach. Same with Andy Reid. It’s just kinda lazy thinking. If Norwood makes that kick, is Levy really that much better of a coach? personally, I would take a coach who has his team in position to win and go to the playoffs every year. OSU wins because they get far superior recruits. They have some much more blue chip talent than Michigan. Same when he was at Stanford. Edited December 25, 2018 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Yeah. That would definitely be better on aggregate than Michigan, but there aren't MANY schools that have multiple hall of famers. I wouldn't single Michigan out as a school that doesn't turn out good NFL QB's. That's all I'm saying. Can't think of a single Ohio State NFL success story at QB. Maybe Mike Tomscak or the great Bobby Hoying? No, Ohio State is a disaster when it comes to NFL QBs, that’s why I don’t trust Haskins at all. IMO Art Schlichter was the best one coming into the league, I was very disappointed in him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Purdue has given me possibly the most good or great NFL QBs for my 45 years, and that’s 3 of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 9 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I don’t know the story but Kelly was far from a saint. Yes but he was OUR far from saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That’s such an easy narrative and kinda silly in football. Was Peyton a bum before he won a SB? If Harbaugh wins a SB or national championship, he is considered a great coach. Same with Andy Reid. It’s just kinda lazy thinking. If Norwood makes that kick, is Levy really that much better of a coach? personally, I would take a coach who has his team in position to win and go to the playoffs every year. OSU wins because they get far superior recruits. They have some much more blue chip talent than Michigan. Same when he was at Stanford. Michigan has recruited at an elite level since Harbaugh has been there. He will never beat OSU. As someone that has watched closely for the last handful of year he is WAY overrated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 2 hours ago, row_33 said: Purdue has given me possibly the most good or great NFL QBs for my 45 years, and that’s 3 of them I'll give you Orton and Danielson but Phipps sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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