Again in 5 minutes of a game I see catches no Bills have made this year

[Billsfan1972]

I know it is old and tired, but it is almost surreal.

 

I watched 3 minutes of the KC/Seattle game and watch A great TD reception by KC & then Lockett and Baldwin make 2 catches on the clinching drive that no Bills made all season.

 

All I ask is for the proverbial 50/50 ball to be caught, a leaping reception, a catch on what is not a perfect pass, an adjustment made and making that hard cut to the ball.

 

I am just beside myself.

 

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

3 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I know it is old and tired, but it is almost surreal.

 

I watched 3 minutes of the KC/Seattle game and watch A great TD reception by KC & then Lockett and Baldwin make 2 catches on the clinching drive that no Bills made all season.

 

All I ask is for the proverbial 50/50 ball to be caught, a leaping reception, a catch on what is not a perfect pass, an adjustment made and making that hard cut to the ball.

 

I am just beside myself.

 

 

 

It is old and tired because it is old and tired that it is true.

 

the sad things is, 72, I think we can watch 5 minutes of any game and see the same thing.

 

come on, OBD, this has got to stop.  

Edited December 24, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts

[Captain_Quint]

Like the one to Logan Thomas at the 1yd line. Tough catch, but one that you see guys make week after week. 

[BillnutinHouston]

2 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

Like the one to Logan Thomas at the 1yd line. Tough catch, but one that you see guys make week after week. 

 

What in your view made that a hard catch?

[Captain_Quint]

3 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

What in your view made that a hard catch?

It was a high throw, contested, and he had to stay in bounds.

But thats a catch he should make. He had two hands on the ball and let it go right through. 

[Mrbojanglezs]

Our receivers lack basic skills.....like hand eye coordination

[Billsfan1972]

The point is, I just got back and turned on the game.  This wasn't watching the whole game and picking out 5 random minutes.

 

All the negative Allen comments stupify me as case in point as ho hum a game Allen played yesterday (and yes 2 bad Ints), he was much better then Brady.  

 

I watch Brees, Willson, Rodgers, Rivers and all the top QB's in the league miss receivers and make bad passes, but every incompletion by Allen is analysed and pointed out.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

The point is, I just got back and turned on the game.  This wasn't watching the whole game and picking out 5 random minutes.

 

All the negative Allen comments stupify me as case in point as ho hum a game Allen played yesterday (and yes 2 bad Ints), he was much better then Brady.  

 

I watch Brees, Willson, Rodgers, Rivers and all the top QB's in the league miss receivers and make bad passes, but every incompletion by Allen is analysed and pointed out.  

 

Dude yes

[GunnerBill]

28 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

Like the one to Logan Thomas at the 1yd line. Tough catch, but one that you see guys make week after week. 

 

Don't even think that is a tough catch. That was a perfectly thrown ball. He didn't even get his hands on it it went straight through them. 

 

How Logan Thomas has spent three years on an NFL roster as a Tight End is a genuine mystery to me. He is absolutely and totally useless. He isn't even Arena League standard, NFL Europe standard..... XFL standard.... he is rubbish. Pure trash. 

[CommonCents]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Don't even think that is a tough catch. That was a perfectly thrown ball. He didn't even get his hands on it it went straight through them. 

 

How Logan Thomas has spent three years on an NFL roster as a Tight End is a genuine mystery to me. He is absolutely and totally useless. He isn't even Arena League standard, NFL Europe standard..... XFL standard.... he is rubbish. Pure trash. 

Croom is barely any better. He has zero instincts. Yesterday’s fumble was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. 

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

The point is, I just got back and turned on the game.  This wasn't watching the whole game and picking out 5 random minutes.

 

All the negative Allen comments stupify me as case in point as ho hum a game Allen played yesterday (and yes 2 bad Ints), he was much better then Brady.  

 

I watch Brees, Willson, Rodgers, Rivers and all the top QB's in the league miss receivers and make bad passes, but every incompletion by Allen is analysed and pointed out.  

 

Josh played badly yesterday. Other QBs play badly sometimes too. Josh played really well last week. It is possible to think all of the below:

- the offensive talent on this team is sub NFL standard;

- Josh was bad yesterday;

- Josh can be a good Quarterback. 

 

People act as though these are somehow three distinct mutually exclusive positions. 

Just now, CommonCents said:

Croom is barely any better. He has zero instincts. Yesterday’s fumble was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. 

 

Agree. He is only in the team for his skills in the bedroom. 

[hemma]

He looked like he couldn't quite figure out how to position his hands.

'hmm, this way or that way?'

 

 

[CommonCents]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Josh played badly yesterday. Other QBs play badly sometimes too. Josh played really well last week. It is possible to think all of the below:

- the offensive talent on this team is sub NFL standard;

- Josh was bad yesterday;

- Josh can be a good Quarterback. 

 

People act as though these are somehow three distinct mutually exclusive positions. 

 

Agree. He is only in the team for his skills in the bedroom. 

If he screws as hard as he sucks then his future is probably in the porn industry. 

 

 In all seriousness, if his relationship is the reason he is on the team that’s sad.

[Cripple Creek]

53 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I know it is old and tired, but it is almost surreal.

 

I watched 3 minutes of the KC/Seattle game and watch A great TD reception by KC & then Lockett and Baldwin make 2 catches on the clinching drive that no Bills made all season.

 

All I ask is for the proverbial 50/50 ball to be caught, a leaping reception, a catch on what is not a perfect pass, an adjustment made and making that hard cut to the ball.

 

I am just beside myself.

 

 

Check out the Texas 6A championship hail Mary.

 

Some of this does go on the QB for being willing to make contested throws too.  One example where Allen did yesterday was a poorly thrown pass to Foster down the left sideline in the second half.  IMO, many NFL receivers find a way to cut inside the DB and make that catch. Foster just congratulated Gilmore on his good coverage.

[Thriftygamer83]

This was heart breaking to watch yesterday Croom wasn’t really interested and there was no accountability for his fumble.  Just like he players nodded and treated the game as though they were not inspired to do anything.  Watching Star and Trent Murphy as their usual rotational fillers was frustrating.  It’s evident we cut them or trade them for picks.  

[SCBills]

18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Josh played badly yesterday. Other QBs play badly sometimes too. Josh played really well last week. It is possible to think all of the below:

- the offensive talent on this team is sub NFL standard;

- Josh was bad yesterday;

- Josh can be a good Quarterback. 

 

People act as though these are somehow three distinct mutually exclusive positions. 

 

Agree. He is only in the team for his skills in the bedroom. 

 

That’s the thing though... was Josh really “bad”

yesterday?   I think he was off, but I don’t know about bad. 

 

When you look back, you realize that if he had even average receiving talent around him, he probably has another 100-150 yards passing and 2 TD’s.   

 

Thats also while asking him to overcome average at best pass pro and zero run blocking from his OL with WR’s that were constantly owned by the Pats physical press coverage.  

 

 

Edited December 24, 2018 by SCBills

[Gray Beard]

I always look at other team’s receivers and it strikes me that they are bigger, stronger, and play with a meaner and more aggressive attitude compared to Bills receivers. 

Fast receivers that stretch the field are nice, but the modern game is currently focused on tight ends and possession receivers, which is what the Bills lack.

[Best Player Available]

The one and only positive take away yesterday.

Regarding Bills pass catchers was Clay was a healthy scratch..

Edited December 24, 2018 by Best Player Available

[Billsfan1972]

He was not bad.  If he doesn't throw two lousy ints, I'd have said he was good.  It was a meh performance, but not bad by any stretch.  Playcalling too lacked imagination (nothing new).

 

His TD, though garbage time again showed his athleticism. 

 

But again minimal separation by the receivers, dropped balls, no adjusting to the throw or shielding the defender. 

 

Too would like to see Allen take the easy 5 yard pass at times. 

[billsfan1959]

14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Josh played badly yesterday. Other QBs play badly sometimes too. Josh played really well last week. It is possible to think all of the below:

- the offensive talent on this team is sub NFL standard;

- Josh was bad yesterday;

- Josh can be a good Quarterback. 

He didn't have a great day yesterday and he didn't get much help either; however, I do like what I see in him and the overall progression he has made this year.

 

In terms of the offensive talent, what mystifies me the most since Allen has been back on the field these past five weeks is the absolute absence of any kind of running game. You would think, as much as he stretches the field, the constant threat of going deep, along with a dedicated "spy" on Allen, that even a substandard group could get some yardage. Outside of Allen, this team has averaged 69 yards a game and barely over 3 yards per carry over the last 5 games.