Big Turk Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) I thought Edmunds has played well at time especially after the first few weeks and up to maybe week 11 or 12. I would say the last few weeks might be the rookie wall creeping up. Dude has been on the field almost every defensive snap all year long and rookies dont really have an off-season with all the pre draft workouts they do for teams...the body just gets worn down after a while and needs some time off. Edited December 24, 2018 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I said it all last year, I said it after the first few weeks of this season. Move Milano to MLB. I don’t care if he’s “small” He is smart, he is fast and he is instinctive. He is very aggressive and has a nose for the ball. He can put on 10-15lbs and play MLB. Let him be the QB of the Defense. Move Edmunds to WLB. Let him run and cover and read and react. They put way to much on his plate with calling the defense. The kid is only 20. He was thinking to much and not just playing. Switch them next year and see where we are at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I did. It was flat out wrong. 3 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: What does this mean? What accountability would you like to see? We had a GM who was afraid to make mistakes. He drafted EJ and was afraid to draft a QB for the 4 years after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) Maybe just maybe we're badly missing Milano. Get me to the off season already Edited December 24, 2018 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Edmunds has developed in coverage and on passing plays through the year. I like him most on 3rd down as the year has gone on. Hasn't shown much consistency or improvement at all vs. the run, however. Adding bulk and experience will give him a chance in that area. It needs to improve for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, dabills21 said: Julian Stanford didn't outlay him...if he did, then Stanford would be the starter. Not that it matters anyhow... Regarding Edmunds this season, he reminds me alot of Ryan Shaziers rookie season. Ryan was not physical and always seemed 1 steo behind....fast forward a couple years and he was one of the best in the league. Give the guy some time to develop with another NFL offseason Shazier is an interesting comparison but you ruined your take with the "...if he did(outplay Edmunds) then Stanford would be the starter" nonsense. Matt Barkley outplayed Josh Allen........that Jets game was the best QB'd and best game for the Bills this season..........but he didn't remain the starter when Allen was healthy because the team was developing their first round pick. Same with Edmunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, dabills21 said: Julian Stanford didn't outlay him...if he did, then Stanford would be the starter. Not that it matters anyhow... Regarding Edmunds this season, he reminds me alot of Ryan Shaziers rookie season. Ryan was not physical and always seemed 1 steo behind....fast forward a couple years and he was one of the best in the league. Give the guy some time to develop with another NFL offseason You could actually see a clear drop-off from Edmunds when Stanford started, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I said it all last year, I said it after the first few weeks of this season. Move Milano to MLB. I don’t care if he’s “small” He is smart, he is fast and he is instinctive. He is very aggressive and has a nose for the ball. He can put on 10-15lbs and play MLB. Let him be the QB of the Defense. Move Edmunds to WLB. Let him run and cover and read and react. They put way to much on his plate with calling the defense. The kid is only 20. He was thinking to much and not just playing. Switch them next year and see where we are at. I think at first glance that looks like a fairly obvious solution but the problem with putting Milano in the middle of the fight is that he's already two-for-two ending seasons on IR. I know it's a passing league but you still really need a durable guy in the middle and you may end up ruining him and making yourself worse at two positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Not a good sign for Edmunds when fans are already citing the players around him as a partial reason why his play is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I think the "move Edmunds to OLB" idea is kind of tired. We spend the majority of the game in a nickel defense, which would be he and Milano anyway. 90% of the fits and things would be the same as they are now regardless of calling him a SAM in base. Also your SAM backer in base defenses has to often jam tight ends and have a really strong punch, which is not something's Edmunds seems to do well. Draft Josh Allen and stick him there and get some functional depth. Edmunds played terrible, but he will be better. During draft time everyone talked about how great his instincts were. He's playing soft and needs some strength. We wound up in base a lot because the Pats forced us into it. They came out with a tight end and a fullback a ton which is why we saw so much Corey Thompson. The Lions playing 3 wide looks played into our hands last week. It was smart of the Pats to force us into base, forcing us to play Thompson and taking advantage of him, as Raphael Bush is a much better player. We should have signed Marquis Flowers a couple of weeks ago instead of assuming Corey Thompson was going to be okay. The Pats took advantage of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: And that's why the guy essentially was forced to retire in his late 20s. Teams don't employ that style of LB really anymore. Not as a starter or a large investment of draft capital or salary. I wasn't actually expecting a MLB in the first. He was very tentative to hit in college and we were/are so weak on the run between the tackles. Didn't seem like an optimal fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think the "move Edmunds to OLB" idea is kind of tired. We spend the majority of the game in a nickel defense, which would be he and Milano anyway. 90% of the fits and things would be the same as they are now regardless of calling him a SAM in base. Also your SAM backer in base defenses has to often jam tight ends and have a really strong punch, which is not something's Edmunds seems to do well. Draft Josh Allen and stick him there and get some functional depth. Edmunds played terrible, but he will be better. During draft time everyone talked about how great his instincts were. He's playing soft and needs some strength. We wound up in base a lot because the Pats forced us into it. They came out with a tight end and a fullback a ton which is why we saw so much Corey Thompson. The Lions playing 3 wide looks played into our hands last week. It was smart of the Pats to force us into base, forcing us to play Thompson and taking advantage of him, as Raphael Bush is a much better player. We should have signed Marquis Flowers a couple of weeks ago instead of assuming Corey Thompson was going to be okay. The Pats took advantage of this. I did see Thompson struggled badly especially on those jet sweeps. But I also felt that Edmunds was just as bad of a liability against the run. Thompson has an excuse....Edmunds does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, dabills21 said: Julian Stanford didn't outlay him...if he did, then Stanford would be the starter. Not that it matters anyhow... Regarding Edmunds this season, he reminds me alot of Ryan Shaziers rookie season. Ryan was not physical and always seemed 1 steo behind....fast forward a couple years and he was one of the best in the league. Give the guy some time to develop with another NFL offseason Great comparison and I fully expect him to make a significant jump in year 2 . His physical talent is just off the charts , once the game slows down , he'll be a monster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: During draft time everyone talked about how great his instincts were. Huh? The draft profiles I saw said instincts were his biggest weakness: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tremaine-edmunds?id=32462018-0002-5600-62d0-412c60099aca https://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/04/17/nfl-draft-profile-no-11-virginia-tech-lb-tremaine-edmunds/a42uauc/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 He reminds me of a soft Poz. Always tackling down the field. Dude plays so soft, no anger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I think Milano helped hide some of his short comings. Now that Edmunds is the man he is not rising to the occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I said it all last year, I said it after the first few weeks of this season. Move Milano to MLB. I don’t care if he’s “small” He is smart, he is fast and he is instinctive. He is very aggressive and has a nose for the ball. He can put on 10-15lbs and play MLB. Let him be the QB of the Defense. Move Edmunds to WLB. Let him run and cover and read and react. They put way to much on his plate with calling the defense. The kid is only 20. He was thinking to much and not just playing. Switch them next year and see where we are at. no, Milano is a converted Safety. He and Edmunds outside with a Slobber Knocker at MLB is a possibility. That would allow Lorax to be used situationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just now, RocCityRoller said: no, Milano is a converted Safety. He and Edmunds outside with a Slobber Knocker at MLB is a possibility. That would allow Lorax to be used situationally. That’s not going to work. You aren’t taking one of these 2 guys off the field 75% of the time. If you move both to the outside, you are losing 1 of them constantly. It’s not the 70s. You don’t need a run stuffing guy at MLB. Your Dlimeman need to be moving forward not back. Milano can and should play MLB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: That’s not going to work. You aren’t taking one of these 2 guys off the field 75% of the time. If you move both to the outside, you are losing 1 of them constantly. It’s not the 70s. You don’t need a run stuffing guy at MLB. Your Dlimeman need to be moving forward not back. Milano can and should play MLB. ???? Milano at SAM, Edmunds at WILL, new guy at MLB. Lorax rotates in when pass rush is needed. Lorax only has a year or two left. He should not be an every down LB at this point of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: ???? Milano at SAM, Edmunds at WILL, new guy at MLB. Lorax rotates in when pass rush is needed. Lorax only has a year or two left. He should not be an every down LB at this point of his career. The Slb is off the field when the ncb is on which is probably 75% of the time Edited December 24, 2018 by Brianmoorman4jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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