John from Riverside Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Yep. We waited too long. Now we'll probably have to settle on a third for Shady.? I would take a 3rd for him at this point.....that 3rd round pick could be used to draft another running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 11:18 AM, Virgil said: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6681/charles-clay Doesn’t say who’s reporting it. Healthy scratch for the Pats game is interesting. I have seen years where Clay was our best receiver out there - maybe that says more about our receivers over the years than Clay himself. There has been a steady decline, and his ability to stay healthy has been an issue. Beane and McD are going to have to do some house cleaning as part of clearing high-salary players who could be reasonably replaced by less expensive players who can contribute as much or more to the team. This draft is pretty deep with TE's that look like they could succeed at the next level. Shady is a similar situation. I believe they are using Croom in the WR role they were looking at KB to fill. At 6'5" 245 lbs and legit 4.6 speed he is in the same mold, but a faster version of Benjamin, particularly since the knee injury KB had. He has shown better hands than KB, but his decision-making, route-running, and blocking are a work in progress. I do feel that overall he is an upgrade over Kelvin who does not seem to be trending in the right direction for KC - still a bit early to close the book but 2 targets for 1 catch, and then 2 targets for 0 catches... Not sure how many more years Shady has in the tank, but to me it is clear that he has not fully recovered from the concussion and hammy injuries. Even with that, for the past two years I have seen less of that elusiveness and burst for yards that he was known for and more dancing and getting stopped by the first guy who gets to him behind the line. The wise move is to move him and his salary to clear a roster spot for a running back who has a chance to be a more regular contributor. I know I can get a bit brutal commenting on our veteran players that are not getting it done anymore during games. In hindsight I don't think it is very cool to bash players who just hit the wall with age and/or injuries while playing for our team and simply can't get it done anymore - unless they are trying to shift the blame for not getting it done. Not calling out anyone, just a moment of self-reflection - tis the season and all that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 9:21 AM, SCBills said: Watching the Ravens roll 4 tight ends out there better than Clay was pretty eye opening. Feel free to send Thomas with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Feel free to send Thomas with him Yes, the whole TE room needs revamping. held out some hope for Logan , but he makes too many mistakes still. maybe as #4 he stays Croom lined up outside so many times i wondered who the new WR was with #80. and even he is not near a number one TE. its is quite sad how bad our ball catching players have been neglected when trying to give Allen a higher chance of success. tees me off a bit, much like the O line and protections. But i have been saying, Clays injuries are no longer manageable . those knees are long gone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 12 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Clay taking over games.. hahahahaha More games than any wr or te on the roster the last 2 years, save foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Clay was bad signing when we made it and remained that way throughout. He's a good player without the injuries, but he had the injuries. Also, he was never really worth the premium we paid in the first place. We were never going to get our money out of Clay it was the kind of signing that made no sense ... almost like we thought we were on the verge of being really good at the time (which is, of course, laughable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Yes, the whole TE room needs revamping. held out some hope for Logan , but he makes too many mistakes still. maybe as #4 he stays Croom lined up outside so many times i wondered who the new WR was with #80. and even he is not near a number one TE. its is quite sad how bad our ball catching players have been neglected when trying to give Allen a higher chance of success. tees me off a bit, much like the O line and protections. But i have been saying, Clays injuries are no longer manageable . those knees are long gone This team has no #1 or #2 WR/TE. On a good day Croom is maybe a 3 and the same goes for Foster. Zay will be lucky to even make this team in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 12:32 PM, Rico said: Please let this be a final lesson to the Bills' front office: Stay the ***** away from any Dolphins. Yes - except this Sunday. All up their rectum.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 They're not doing it to give him some rest before the next game. The message is pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Yes, the whole TE room needs revamping. held out some hope for Logan , but he makes too many mistakes still. maybe as #4 he stays Croom lined up outside so many times i wondered who the new WR was with #80. and even he is not near a number one TE. its is quite sad how bad our ball catching players have been neglected when trying to give Allen a higher chance of success. tees me off a bit, much like the O line and protections. But i have been saying, Clays injuries are no longer manageable . those knees are long gone They never put Croom inside because he is the worst blocking TE that I have ever seen. Out of all our bad TE's Croom is the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 23 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: They never put Croom inside because he is the worst blocking TE that I have ever seen. Out of all our bad TE's Croom is the worst. so we have that going for us.. any one have an Opinion of the types of TE Bills are looking for ? I liked O Leary honestly. Perhaps limited but consistent , at least from a Fans pov But heck I liked Robert Woods 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 They should let him play this week against his old team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 2:18 AM, Virgil said: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6681/charles-clay Doesn’t say who’s reporting it. Healthy scratch for the Pats game is interesting. I believe he may be being told that, but not by McDermott and Beane. Even if you think that's the way it's going to go, why decrease your options early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/01/charles-clay-on-buffalo-bills-future-i-cant-control-it/amp/ Controlling the future actually means catching the ball and living up to the pro-bowl status you once had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Nice thread title, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 He will sign with a team like GB with a proven QB for league minimum for a one year deal.. and either crush it or fall flat on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 If anyone thinks we’ll trade him, I seriously doubt anyone would give up anything for him. He’ll be cut at some point and as the previous person have to get the league minimum on a prove it deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) not a TE oriented offense. he's like Shady, if he's healthy and not too expensive for his position, keep him. Although I am guessing that knee is simply just not right and hasn't been right for a couple years.. Edited January 1, 2019 by ProcessTruster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Expected for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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