Bill_with_it Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 A wr who doesnt give up on plays, a wr who hates to lose to a cb, a wr who will learn his craft in order to be an asset of the team instead of a liability (kb, etc), and finally one that comes prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: I agree, we've had only 2 true #1 wrs in the history of the team. Ironically Tim said in the 1990’s the Bills has 2 #1 WRs in Andre Reed and James Lofton. If anything, I’d say Lofton was a true #2 on those teams. 6 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: So many BBMB "Stevie Johnson" argument flashbacks right now....? I totally understand why. It’s not an easy answer to determine whether Stevie was #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Simple: a receiver that your opponent has to draw up a game plan in order to stop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Nobody ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) A #1 receiver is one that can consistently beat opponents’ best secondary defenders. Welker was brought up earlier; I wouldn’t consider him a #1 by that criteria since he consistenty lined up in the slot. Definitely one of the best slot (#3?) receivers of all time though. He mastered the kinds of routes those guys need to run. Edited December 16, 2018 by JoPar_v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: So many BBMB "Stevie Johnson" argument flashbacks right now....? To me, a #1 wr is each team's " go to" guy. Gets the most targets and is looked to when as the leader of the wr group.As sad as this is, he was our #1 for a couple of years. Would he have been for other teams? For most, no. But he was for us those 2-3 yrs. It's harder to gauge on a team that spreads it out a lot(Pats, Rams, etc.). If I was a fan of any of these teams and watched them exclusively, I could probably point him out. Sure you want size and speed, but it's someone the qb trusts in every situation. Tough question though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 40 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Nobody ... For football generations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Requires defense to gameplan to stop. Require a double team more often than not. Wins 1 on 1 majority of times. We have no one like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Good example today, Golladay. He was getting a lot of hype like he was a 1WR. Look what good corners do to him. Watch it again with Tre. A true number one WR isn’t going to be completed eliminated by a good corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 BIlls need to know what a #2 and #3 WR looks like they dont even know what one of those are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Thelin, yes. Welker, no. I'd peg Hopkins for best hands. Hopkins made that play in the endzone last night, with 2 mins left in the game, even though he was held and covered well. I think that's what makes a true #1. Everyone knew he was the target, they held him and blanketed him and it didnt really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said: So you are saying we need a true WR1? Haha yes I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Sometimes these things are best understood by reviewing the converse. For example. Kelvin Benjamin is not a true #1 receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I mean #1 literally means the first option. And certain passing concepts and schemes value different skill sets. The Patriots flat out spread you thin and then attack the middle of the field. That’s what they do now. If they had a big time WR on the outside and Edelman in the slot, they still are going to go to the underneath guy most of the time. It’s a rhythm on time passing game. They should just classify WR as “inside guys” and “outside guys” They are quite different. Right, but it seems that the conversation is more “franchise wr” than “1st read” i think most most of us can agree a randy moss and an Edelman are very different types and would have very different values in the league in their prime. Where do you draw the line between those? Full route trees, size, speed, hands, beat elite talent or doubles, can make plays without hof qb and great support, etc... Aj green is great in 32 cities. Larry fitz was fantastic on bad teams. Edelman I think struggles in many cities. Edited December 16, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 WR that can get open even when he's covered, double covered, triple covered, and will catch the ball no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Who ever eats up the most cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) I really think Foster might be good. Not saying he can be a 1 but not saying he can’t be either Edited December 16, 2018 by Brianmoorman4jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 A true #1 WR is someone who can make contested catches, dominate a CB, and requires defenses to double team him. Could be through speed, size, route running, or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I believe that a #1 receiver is an overrated commodity. Some QBs, when they have a #1 receiver grow to depend on him to the degree that if the defense is somehow able to take him away, the QB is unable to adjust by distributing the ball to other receivers who may be capable in their own right. I'd rather have an offense where the QB has a comfort level with multiple receivers and distributes the ball in such a way that defenses can't focus on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Bills dont even have a #2 WR let alone a #1. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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