Phil The Thrill Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Back in 2009, Russ Grimm and Brian Schottenheimer turned down the opportunity to interview for the Bills vacant head coach position. If you recall, Grimm was somewhat of a legend on the old BBMB. So many fans wanted him as HC, despite never having ascending to anything higher than a position coach. Yet some Bills fans really wanted Russ. Brian Schottenheimer rode the coattails of a decent run with NYJ. He was considered to be the “Hot” coaching candidate. I can’t remember anyone being too Disappointed he turned down the Bills, but some felt slighted. Long story short, Grimm was fired in AZ a few years later. Still never ascended last OL coach and is now out of the NFL. Schottenheimer was fired from NYJ and was out of the NFL. Now he’s made somewhat of a comeback with Seattle though I don’t think he’ll get any HC interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The Bills were a known ***** show of a franchise at the time...So I would guess the answer is a big fat No... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, JoeF said: The Bills were a known ***** show of a franchise at the time...So I would guess the answer is a big fat No... A lot of that had to do with Raph as owner....Still opportunity knocks just once. It was knocking back then and hadn’t knocked since. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The last time I worried about history was when I was in High School, which was it’s own bit of history. Ancient history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This was actually a serious question Just now, Augie said: The last time I worried about history was when I was in High School, which was it’s own bit of history. Ancient history. Sure it’s definitely in the past, but fun to think about considering both men’s careers went down the toilet after declining a chance to interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, Phil The Thrill said: This was actually a serious question Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said: This was actually a serious question Sure it’s definitely in the past, but fun to think about considering both men’s careers went down the toilet after declining a chance to interview I’m just glad it went down the toilet somewhere else. Just another example of poor decisions made during those days. Not that they would have been offered, but just having those who ultimately failed on the short list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: A lot of that had to do with Raph as owner....Still opportunity knocks just once. It was knocking back then and hadn’t knocked since. It's a legit question. I just think both Grimm and Young Shotty were thinking I will wait until a job comes along with a logical front office structure and an owner committed to winning. The Bills had neither of those at the time...hence you end up with Jauron and Chan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, JoeF said: It's a legit question. I just think both Grimm and Young Shotty were thinking I will wait until a job comes along with a logical front office structure and an owner committed to winning. The Bills had neither of those at the time...hence you end up with Jauron and Chan... Thanks, Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 What is the obsession with Marty today? Did he give his only daughter to you? Holy crap man...let it go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: What is the obsession with Marty today? Did he give his only daughter to you? Holy crap man...let it go! Not just Marty. The whole damn Schottenheimer family is getting the business around here today. I don't quite get it either. Does Brian have a son we can piss on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenyellowred Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: Back in 2009, Russ Grimm and Brian Schottenheimer turned down the opportunity to interview for the Bills vacant head coach position. In reference to Schottenheimer only, for the most part, the son or younger brother in sports sucks compared to the older one: Marty Schottenheimer was better than Brian. Peyton Manning is better than Eli. Bum Phillips was better than Wade. Wayne Gretzky was better than Keith. Phil Niekro was better than Joe. Joe Klecko was better than Dan. Jim Kelly is better than Chad. Lonzo Ball is better than LaMelo and LiAngelo. Derek Carr being better than David, and Lane Kiffin being better than Monte are the rare exceptions. Also Stephen Curry being better than Dell Curry. Edited December 15, 2018 by greenyellowred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 they would've been fired by 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, greenyellowred said: In reference to Schottenheimer only, for the most part, the son or younger brother in sports sucks compared to the older one: Marty Schottenheimer was better than Brian. Peyton Manning is better than Eli. Bum Phillips was better than Wade. Wayne Gretzky was better than Keith. Phil Niekro was better than Joe. Joe Klecko was better than Dan. Jim Kelly is better than Chad. Lonzo Ball is better than LaMelo and LiAngelo. Derek Carr being better than David, and Lane Kiffin being better than Monte are the rare exceptions. Also Stephen Curry being better than Dell Curry. You can make a list arguing either way, this is not true for the most part. You even go for a stretch with Jim and Chad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, greenyellowred said: In reference to Schottenheimer only, for the most part, the son or younger brother in sports sucks compared to the older one: Marty Schottenheimer was better than Brian. Peyton Manning is better than Eli. Bum Phillips was better than Wade. Wayne Gretzky was better than Keith. Phil Niekro was better than Joe. Joe Klecko was better than Dan. Jim Kelly is better than Chad. Lonzo Ball is better than LaMelo and LiAngelo. Derek Carr being better than David, and Lane Kiffin being better than Monte are the rare exceptions. Also Stephen Curry being better than Dell Curry. Klay Thompson, Ken Griffey Jr, Andrew Luck, Clay Matthews III, Barry Bonds, Brett Hull, Kobe Bryant and Cal Ripken would all like to apply for inclusion into your club. Archie Manning isn't quite sure what to make of it all and Nick O'Leary was last seen running from this thread with one glove on. Even Marcia Clark and Mark Fuhrman know, These Gloves Don't Fit! Edited December 15, 2018 by cwater10 accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) I bet they're both losing sleep over it. Edited December 15, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 ...Grimm would be a good candidate to lure out of retirement as OL Coach.......I know....pipe dream..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 11 hours ago, greenyellowred said: In reference to Schottenheimer only, for the most part, the son or younger brother in sports sucks compared to the older one: Marty Schottenheimer was better than Brian. Peyton Manning is better than Eli. Bum Phillips was better than Wade. Wayne Gretzky was better than Keith. Phil Niekro was better than Joe. Joe Klecko was better than Dan. Jim Kelly is better than Chad. Lonzo Ball is better than LaMelo and LiAngelo. Derek Carr being better than David, and Lane Kiffin being better than Monte are the rare exceptions. Also Stephen Curry being better than Dell Curry. This is insane - there is just as good of a list going the other way. Every individual person has to be viewed in their own light. What we do know is that siblings and children of pro athletes have great genetics and typically a better understanding of what it takes to succeed. Sometimes that leads to them being better and sometimes they never live up to the hype, but the older brother/parent being better is not a valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Ralph was cheap when it came to coaches and gm's. Don't blame them for not being interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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