BillsFan1988 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Attack the first couple of days of free agency by signing 3 guys to this oline. Make a statement sign them all right away even if we can during the first day. RT Daryl Williams 26yrs LT Donavon Smith 25yrs C Mat Paradis 29yrs I know what your thinking what about Dawkins . Well move him to LG . Dawkins has struggled at times this yr and is more suited to kick inside where he can be an all-pro guard . Lots of scouts had him as a guard coming out of college and i think his skill set is better suited for the inside also. Its gonna take upwards of 40 mil to sign these 3 guys but it will be well worth it. Projected starting 5 LT Smith LG Dawkins C Paradis RG Teller RT Williams This is a monster oline that can move mountains in the run gm and pass pro with the best of them. Yes they will be getting paid but with our QB still on his rookie deal for another 4yrs plus with my plan to go skill postion heavy in the draft on offense. We shouldn't even fell the cap burden of putting that type of money on the line. Not only will this line be 1 of the better units in the NFL but they are also very young group. TE - Jessie James or Demitruis Harris These guys can step in and play from day 1 on this team . They also can be fantastic #2 TEs once we develop the rookie i got us taking high in this draft Wrs John Brown & Chris Conley I want this team to look like a track meet on Sundays. RBs Mark Ingram - Ingram would be a great fit in Dabolls offense. He can run with power and speed both inside and outside and he's great in the screen gm. Malcolm Brown . I like what i have seen from this kid in limited action with the Rams . I believe the Bills should trade McCoy and add 3 new running bks. 1 via draft and 2 free agents. Bkup QB Sign Fitzmagic . Defense I wouldn't do much here this offseason. We have a top 5 D and we can use some of our pks later in the draft to add depth to secondary and Dline. Draft Rd1 trade bk add another 2nd 1st pk - Wr -Marquise "Hollywood" Brown- this kid is a speed demon line him up every where and let him catch bombs from Allen for yrs to come. 2nd rd TE-Noah Fant Noah Fant will be a dynamic TE that is to fast for LBers and to big for corners. In other words he's a matchup nightmare. 2nd rd via trade RB Bryce Love- i can see Love playing in that Kamara role in the NFL. Edited December 8, 2018 by BillsFan1988 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Paradis will be in high demand.. Whats Plan B if they can’t get him? Kalil probably, but he will be 34... Might need to roll with Bodine and draft a longer term replacement.. I would look at Roger Saffold at Guard as an option in FA.. Trade a 5th for Mohammed Sanu who is still only 29 and has two $7m years left on his current deal.. Sign Barkley as back up QB.. Look at a WR in the first round... Need a new TE... don’t think Fant lasts to the 2nd so might have to trade up for him.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I pray for at least two solid starters on the OL through FA. Beyond that, tough to say, but we need to draft there too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I know this is very low on the priority list, but if we sign Barkley in which I hope they do, we still need another QB via FA or later in the draft, only reason I mention this is because it is never mentioned. Anderson wont be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: Attack the first couple of days of free agency by signing 3 guys to this oline. Make a statement sign them all right away even if we can during the first day. RT Daryl Williams 26yrs LT Donavon Smith 25yrs C Mat Paradis 29yrs I know what your thinking what about Dawkins . Well move him to LG . Dawkins has struggled at times this yr and is more suited to kick inside where he can be an all-pro guard . Lots of scouts had him as a guard coming out of college and i think his skill set is better suited for the inside also. Its gonna take upwards of 40 mil to sign these 3 guys but it will be well worth it. Projected starting 5 LT Smith LG Dawkins C Paradis RG Teller RT Williams This is a monster oline that can move mountains in the run gm and pass pro with the best of them. Yes they will be getting paid but with our QB still on his rookie deal for another 4yrs plus with my plan to go skill postion heavy in the draft on offense. We shouldn't even fell the cap burden of putting that type of money on the line. Not only will this line be 1 of the better units in the NFL but they are also very young group. TE - Jessie James or Demitruis Harris These guys can step in and play from day 1 on this team . They also can be fantastic #2 TEs once we develop the rookie i got us taking high in this draft Wrs John Brown & Chris Conley I want this team to look like a track meet on Sundays. RBs Mark Ingram - Ingram would be a great fit in Dabolls offense. He can run with power and speed both inside and outside and he's great in the screen gm. Malcolm Brown . I like what i have seen from this kid in limited action with the Rams . I believe the Bills should trade McCoy and add 3 new running bks. 1 via draft and 2 free agents. Bkup QB Sign Fitzmagic . Defense I wouldn't do much here this offseason. We have a top 5 D and we can use some of our pks later in the draft to add depth to secondary and Dline. Draft Rd1 trade bk add another 2nd 1st pk - Wr -Marquise "Hollywood" Brown- this kid is a speed demon line him up every where and let him catch bombs from Allen for yrs to come. 2nd rd TE-Noah Fant Noah Fant will be a dynamic TE that is to fast for LBers and to big for corners. In other words he's a matchup nightmare. 2nd rd via trade RB Bryce Love- i can see Love playing in that Kamara role in the NFL. I love your mock FA and draft but unfortunately not your optimism. You have a lot of players listed that will be sought out by many other teams. Teams with better personnel, better weather and established QBs. Not saying a couple of them can't be acquired, but as usual the Bills will have to pay a premium for players to come here. Buffalo while a very nice place IMO, doesn't have the nightlife of NY or Miami. The tax breaks of Florida or Texas. We have a raw yet very talented young QB. I don't know what it would cost but if Star got 10 mil per I can only imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I'm happy with Barkley as my backup QB. If he's willing to re-sign, I'd do it. I want the Bills to obtain a little insurance at CB and strong outside linebacker, and maybe get a couple more defensive linemen. We can focus on offense other than that. I expect there will be some quality free agent offensive linemen available in addition to those cited by the OP, and Buffalo is in a good position to be competitive. Money wise, theyll have a lot of cap room, and I think they can sell Josh Allen as an up and comer who is going to be a winner in the league for a long time. Draft BPA with need being your tiebreaker for players who are similarly rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Why does it seem plausible to move Dawkins to Guard after playing 2 years as LT? And after 1 year moving Teller to RG? I just don't get your point. It COULD happen, but what makes you think this will succeed?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: I love your mock FA and draft but unfortunately not your optimism. You have a lot of players listed that will be sought out by many other teams. Teams with better personnel, better weather and established QBs. Not saying a couple of them can't be acquired, but as usual the Bills will have to pay a premium for players to come here. Buffalo while a very nice place IMO, doesn't have the nightlife of NY or Miami. The tax breaks of Florida or Texas. We have a raw yet very talented young QB. I don't know what it would cost but if Star got 10 mil per I can only imagine. Star is playing like a $10 mill player. It's generally much more about money than anything else. But while the Bills will absolutely fill a bunch of holes at FA, the OP shouldn't expect so many big ticket guys. This is a conservative FO. They come from a team with a conservative FO and they've already announced that they want to build through the draft and fill holes with FA. Hope he won't be too disappointed if the FAs they bring in are nearly all low- to medium-priced guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 At least we're discussing offensive linemen as a forethought for a change. However, you can get them, bring 'em in. And as the header says, we need to go beyond one or even two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Conley is an enigma to me. Has the size and speed, but can never put it together on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: Attack the first couple of days of free agency by signing 3 guys to this oline. Make a statement sign them all right away even if we can during the first day. RT Daryl Williams 26yrs LT Donavon Smith 25yrs C Mat Paradis 29yrs I know what your thinking what about Dawkins . Well move him to LG . Dawkins has struggled at times this yr and is more suited to kick inside where he can be an all-pro guard . Lots of scouts had him as a guard coming out of college and i think his skill set is better suited for the inside also. Its gonna take upwards of 40 mil to sign these 3 guys but it will be well worth it. Projected starting 5 LT Smith LG Dawkins C Paradis RG Teller RT Williams This is a monster oline that can move mountains in the run gm and pass pro with the best of them. Yes they will be getting paid but with our QB still on his rookie deal for another 4yrs plus with my plan to go skill postion heavy in the draft on offense. We shouldn't even fell the cap burden of putting that type of money on the line. Not only will this line be 1 of the better units in the NFL but they are also very young group. TE - Jessie James or Demitruis Harris These guys can step in and play from day 1 on this team . They also can be fantastic #2 TEs once we develop the rookie i got us taking high in this draft Wrs John Brown & Chris Conley I want this team to look like a track meet on Sundays. RBs Mark Ingram - Ingram would be a great fit in Dabolls offense. He can run with power and speed both inside and outside and he's great in the screen gm. Malcolm Brown . I like what i have seen from this kid in limited action with the Rams . I believe the Bills should trade McCoy and add 3 new running bks. 1 via draft and 2 free agents. Bkup QB Sign Fitzmagic . Defense I wouldn't do much here this offseason. We have a top 5 D and we can use some of our pks later in the draft to add depth to secondary and Dline. Draft Rd1 trade bk add another 2nd 1st pk - Wr -Marquise "Hollywood" Brown- this kid is a speed demon line him up every where and let him catch bombs from Allen for yrs to come. 2nd rd TE-Noah Fant Noah Fant will be a dynamic TE that is to fast for LBers and to big for corners. In other words he's a matchup nightmare. 2nd rd via trade RB Bryce Love- i can see Love playing in that Kamara role in the NFL. This offense requires players with exstremely high football IQs. You cant just plug anyone into it. Ryan Groy was a beast in the Roman/Lynn offense but dog poop in the Earhardt/Perkins. This is the same offense that Brady runs. Many WRs that do well elsewhere suck in NE. Edited December 9, 2018 by formerlyofCtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 It may end up being the same results in the end but I think the best plan is getting the best free agents for the systems we run at needed positions.....and then allowing the draft to fall to us based off that at "best available player" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 6 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I love your mock FA and draft but unfortunately not your optimism. You have a lot of players listed that will be sought out by many other teams. Teams with better personnel, better weather and established QBs. Not saying a couple of them can't be acquired, but as usual the Bills will have to pay a premium for players to come here. Buffalo while a very nice place IMO, doesn't have the nightlife of NY or Miami. The tax breaks of Florida or Texas. We have a raw yet very talented young QB. I don't know what it would cost but if Star got 10 mil per I can only imagine. I was gonna mention what u said about free agents coming to Buffalo . I think its more about the skill position guys then anything else. We usually dont have prbs signing defensive guys or olineman . For some reason especially oline there more grounded individuals . With that being said we have the money and we need to attack the situation as best as possible. Maybe we dont get all 3 of the guys i mentioned maybe we sign a different combo of guys but my point is if we can fix our oline with money then it opens up the draft for our skill position players on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Why can’t our LT’s remain at LT? The last two fans want me them moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Why can’t our LT’s remain at LT? The last two fans want me them moved. Because the LTs the Bills currently have suck, and it's not uncommon for poor OTs to play significantly better at OG. LT is a position that generally requires an OLer who is quick/nimble/agile for a big man. Usually good LTs are rangier than other OLers. Dawkins apparently lacks the quickness/agility required to be a good LT, but has the strength which might enable him to become a good LG. Of course, the Bills are in this situation because they were in such a hurry to shed Cordy Glenn's contract that they traded him away simply because Dawkins played decently as a rookie LT. 5 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: I was gonna mention what u said about free agents coming to Buffalo . I think its more about the skill position guys then anything else. We usually dont have prbs signing defensive guys or olineman . For some reason especially oline there more grounded individuals . With that being said we have the money and we need to attack the situation as best as possible. Maybe we dont get all 3 of the guys i mentioned maybe we sign a different combo of guys but my point is if we can fix our oline with money then it opens up the draft for our skill position players on offense. The Bills sign bottom feeder FA OLers who have few real options. They were one of the few if not the only team willing to take a chance on Incognito after his suspension, for example. The last/only time they paid top dollar for a FA OLer was back in 2007 or 2008 when they signed Derrick Dockery at LG. The Bills have twice traded away good young LTs that they've developed rather than pay them market value: Jason Peters in 2009 and Cordy Glenn in 2018. Since the Bills don't value OLers, I doubt they're real players for the top FA OLers. That's a pipe dream. Edited December 9, 2018 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Folks gotta remember Buffalo has a lot of cap room this offseason. So they may even try to steal some restricted free agents they know may not match an offer. If Buffalo really liked someone and the price isn’t too high etc. I would suspect Buffalo will go after players they really want. WR is a must. I could see the Bills going after someone like Rashard Higgins, RFA Cleveland. Solid WR, plays behind Landry and Callaway. Would be a great pick up. Draft a 2nd round WR. WR Corp 2nd Round pick Zay Jones Robert Foster Rashard Higgins Isiah McKenzie Point being, Buffalo has the money to overpay for players they think will be studs and other teams can’t afford to match. Hopefully it works out better than a Charles Clay RFA move.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, SoTier said: Because the LTs the Bills currently have suck, and it's not uncommon for poor OTs to play significantly better at OG. LT is a position that generally requires an OLer who is quick/nimble/agile for a big man. Usually good LTs are rangier than other OLers. Dawkins apparently lacks the quickness/agility required to be a good LT, but has the strength which might enable him to become a good LG. Of course, the Bills are in this situation because they were in such a hurry to shed Cordy Glenn's contract that they traded him away simply because Dawkins played decently as a rookie LT. The Bills sign bottom feeder FA OLers who have few real options. They were one of the few if not the only team willing to take a chance on Incognito after his suspension, for example. The last/only time they paid top dollar for a FA OLer was back in 2007 or 2008 when they signed Derrick Dockery at LG. The Bills have twice traded away good young LTs that they've developed rather than pay them market value: Jason Peters in 2009 and Cordy Glenn in 2018. Since the Bills don't value OLers, I doubt they're real players for the top FA OLers. That's a pipe dream. When are you going to get it through your head that this is a new organization with a new owner, new front office and new HC? Saying stuff about Peters et al said that has any bearing on what goes on now is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I would like to see the Bills find an Alvin Kamara type back to play with Allen. Stong enough to run between tackles, but super quick with great hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Why can’t our LT’s remain at LT? The last two fans want me them moved. I like Dawkins at LT. Buffalo needs a C and RT. I see Buffalo grabbing a Veteran at center for sure and there’s 2-3 solid veterans or they may reach for Alabama’s Center Pierschbacher who knows the offense. Then paying a JaWaan James (probably like $10-12M per) I think Buffalo will be drafting around 10-12, winning 3 of last 4. I would a trade back and grab Yodny Cajuste OT from WV, it’s talked about him being better at Guard in the league. Dude is strong and has great athleticism. Plug him in at RG and could be a swing OT. Dawkins Teller FA (Paradis/Morse/Draft Pierschbacher Cajuste James The goal should be to pay for our OL that will be around for the next 3-5 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, TigerJ said: I'm happy with Barkley as my backup QB. If he's willing to re-sign, I'd do it. I want the Bills to obtain a little insurance at CB and strong outside linebacker, and maybe get a couple more defensive linemen. We can focus on offense other than that. I expect there will be some quality free agent offensive linemen available in addition to those cited by the OP, and Buffalo is in a good position to be competitive. Money wise, theyll have a lot of cap room, and I think they can sell Josh Allen as an up and comer who is going to be a winner in the league for a long time. Draft BPA with need being your tiebreaker for players who are similarly rated. my sense is some of the cap room will be kept to sign their own guys like T White long before their rookie contracts are up. Agree with TigerJ that everything else being equal, in most cases FAs ain't coming to WNY. Too many off the field opportunities (endorsements, appearances, TV, etc. ) in the cities perceived as big, popular, fun, young. From a practical standpoint, best bet is to build it with the draft as those guys are "trapped" in B Lo for 4-5 years. And some of them will like it in WNY and can be re-signed with that cap room. I don't want any more FA overpay contracts like what it took to get Mario Williams to come. That is bad business and comes back to bite you in the -ss. This franchise has drafted extremely well under McBeanes; need to make the most of those 10 picks next year. Edited December 9, 2018 by ProcessTruster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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