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30 minutes ago, ctk232 said:

It could also be argued that if he throws from the top of his drop he should hit Zay in stride over the middle - QBs have made that play. It's more the timing and recognition piece of this. He may have felt the pressure which caused him to stride and tuck and run, but I do think he had a window to throw, especially if he knows Zay is the first read on the play.

 

Yes, Sirles doesn't help by getting bull rushed, but it doesn't completely justify the tuck and run here.

I think next year he makes that throw. This season between missing time, a ton of learning on the fly, and line/receiver issues...seeing yet another guard on skates backing into him I get the decision. It's not optimal but it's understandable.

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31 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

It would be nice if the guy reviewing the tape actually knew about NFL

 

If I wanted to read a fan (posing as a professional) take on footage, I would read Joe Marino or Jon Ledyard

 

"The Draft Network" CAO and COO vs "Cover 1/The Athletic" and Erik Turner?

 

There's no disputing of taste, they say. 

But Dude.  Srsly?  Srsly?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

"The Draft Network" CAO and COO vs "Cover 1/The Athletic" and Erik Turner?

 

There's no disputing of taste, they say. 

But Dude.  Srsly?  Srsly?

 

 

 

Just saying....neither Turner not Ledyard have ever worked on a college or NFL staff.  They both have high school coaching backgrounds like most people here in the forum.  Turner is actually a customs agent at the Canadian Border.  

 

Their analysis is akin to a former high school football player or coach breaking down film.  It’s cool - some of the insight is interesting.  In my opinion their opinion holds as much weight as some of established, proven players and NFL executives that breakdown film.

 

I will say The Athletic is a professional media, whereas the Draft Network is a glorified fan blog.   So props to Turner for getting that gig.

 

If you want film analysis on The Athletic, read the breakdown from Matt Fairburn and Joe Licata.  Joe actually ran the offense as a QB at UB and was a camp arm for Cincinnati.  

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6 hours ago, BillsFanMike said:

He's getting better each game. That's what I was hoping for and that's what he's delivering. Lets see what he does this week against the Jets. They're looking for revenge so it should be a good game. All I want to see this year is Josh play and get better every week. If he does that, I think we may have a franchise QB.

i want to see 30 attempts and 300 yds. i want to see that we have a 300 yd. thrower for once. i do believe he will work the pocket more, maybe this week he works on his short game, idk, but at some point before the end i wanna see a 300 yd. game.

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I was bored and I decided to search YouTube for Josh Allen videos to get inspired. I found this one, released just hours ago, the analyzes Allen's footwork that needs to be corrected before he can make the leap to the next level. The video also points out he has made progess under Daboll. I hope the coaches see this.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rQ67QmlGJI

 

To summarize, the problem is Allen is not pointing his lead foot the right way to make an accurate throw. This is the first thing they taght me when I learned to throw years ago.

 

[Mod note merging this in because both the YouTube vid and Athletic article are Cover 1/Erik Turner analysis]

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4 minutes ago, Domdab99 said:

The Athletic and Cover1 has the best Bills content on the web. 

 

Athletic, yes.  Cover 1, no.  Not a fan of fan blogs.  Prefer the pros 

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13 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

Athletic, yes.  Cover 1, no.  Not a fan of fan blogs.  Prefer the pros 

 

they share some of the same writers

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23 hours ago, Domdab99 said:

 

they share some of the same writers

 

Let me rephrase that....I’m not a fan of Eric Turner, because I don’t think he has a credible voice.  He played high school football like we all did.  Never worked for a college team, never worked for an NFL team, never even worked for an XFL or lingerie bowl team.  

 

He works hard no doubt, but again it’s like some of us watching film and critiquing players.  He a fan. Period. 

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14 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

Let me rephrase that....I’m not a fan of Eric Turner, because I don’t think he has a credible voice.  He played high school football like we all did.  Never worked for a college team, never worked for an NFL team, never even worked for an XFL or lingerie bowl team.  

 

He works hard no doubt, but again it’s like some of us watching film and critiquing players.  He a fan. Period. 

 

And hows does that disqualify him from commenting on the game exactly?

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2 hours ago, Domdab99 said:

 

And hows does that disqualify him from commenting on the game exactly?

 

It didn’t....I’m saying, take him with a grain of salt.  I’ve seen people use his stuff like it’s gospel

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I was bored and I decided to search YouTube for Josh Allen videos to get inspired. I found this one, released just hours ago, the analyzes Allen's footwork that needs to be corrected before he can make the leap to the next level. The video also points out he has made progess under Daboll. I hope the coaches see this.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rQ67QmlGJI

 

Excellent link. As he becomes more mentally comfortable and the game continues to slow down for him, hopefully  we'll see a reduction in these mechanical issues. I'll be watching for that over these next 4 games. How much of that was him not being properly coached before his pre draft sessions with Jordan Palmer and how much of it is an over-reliance on his arm strength.

 

 

 

 

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On ‎12‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 4:14 PM, co_springs_billsfan said:

Pretty nice distribution left/right and short/deep

only 26 passes plotted on that chart.

 

so the chart is incomplete.

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19 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

I count 29. But still short. Perhaps out of bounds throws not charted?

that must be it.

I recounted and this time counted the blue lines with nothing under it as passes and I now see a green under the nearest INT so yeah you/we got it now at 29.  

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