Joeziehmer Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 What to do with Trent Murphy when all is said and done? Still battling injuries, when healthy losing out to Shaq Lawson, and becoming rotational with bad knees. I didn’t know we were looking for a compliment to Charles Clay on the other side of the ball. Truthfully a great signing of sabermetrics and playing “money ball” shouldn’t we be developing younger and healthier players? McBeane brought an end to a drought but lost a season and the locker room. Next season cutting Murphy would be a hit of $7.5 Million it’s not like a league minimum. So, do we keep bench warmers to avoid cap hits and hope they fit a rotation for at least a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 We need depth for our d line rotation. Why get rid of him and create another hole. When healthy he isn’t that bad. Not sure why people who are battling injuries get crucified. We already will have around 80 mil in cap, how much do we need? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeziehmer Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Pbomb said: We need depth for our d line rotation. Why get rid of him and create another hole. When healthy he isn’t that bad. Not sure why people who are battling injuries get crucified. We already will have around 80 mil in cap, how much do we need? When healthy he gets beat out by Shaq Lawson and has no impact whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, Joeziehmer said: When healthy he gets beat out by Shaq Lawson and has no impact whatsoever. He almost had a safety on Sunday, makes plenty of other plays as well. Maybe Shaq is actually just playing good. I didn’t know Mcbeane lost the locker room too , thanks for the update 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Joeziehmer said: When healthy he gets beat out by Shaq Lawson and has no impact whatsoever. I'm fine with Hughes, Lawson and Murphy. Think we can get decent production there if we squeeze hard enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeziehmer Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I'm fine with Hughes, Lawson and Murphy. Think we can get decent production there if we squeeze hard enough. Maybe, squeezing Murphy into a defensive tackle position might be an incentive for him and give us a return on investment? 6 minutes ago, Pbomb said: He almost had a safety on Sunday, makes plenty of other plays as well. Maybe Shaq is actually just playing good. I didn’t know Mcbeane lost the locker room too , thanks for the update The gap he was playing and the stunt and x-calls he assigned got gashed. He makes smart plays but dumb calls and fits a defensive tackle assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 It is $3.5m dead cap to get out after this year, but it is $8.5m to stay tied in. I think it is a no brainer to cut him. His production isn't worth the extra $5m, he has actually been often times a 4th DE behind Hughes, Lawson and Lorax (who plays there generally on pass downs). Add to that we need to draft a young DE early in the 2019 draft - certainly in the first 3 rounds, because Lawson while a fine player isn't a big pressure guy and Hughes will be 31 when next season begins and Lorax will be 36. The wall could come quickly for them and if you are left then with Murphy and Lawson you are in trouble. Dump Murphy, save the cash and take advantage of this excellent class of edge rushers to find a guy you can plug in on your line for the next 10 years. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Joeziehmer said: Maybe, squeezing Murphy into a defensive tackle position might be an incentive for him and give us a return on investment? Murphy can get you 8-10 sacks when he's healthy and I haven't given up on Lawson yet he was a 1st round pick. They can hold down that LE spot just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 What is the point in cutting Murphy? Do we need the cap savings? Does his salary next season prevent them from signing anyone? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 He's battled injuries, but a solid player when healthy. OP is just a whine just to whine type. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I thought we had the #1 defense in the league. And have been pretty much injury free. Why are we worried about this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Murphy has looked good the last couple of games. We just have to get Murphy playing at 100% healthy. Might as well sit him out for the rest of the year and assure he is healthy for next year start. Edited December 4, 2018 by wppete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 And the beat goes on... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Why can't we have both Lawson and Murphy? Is it a bad thing to have at least two solid DE's in a rotation? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Pbomb said: We need depth for our d line rotation. Why get rid of him and create another hole. When healthy he isn’t that bad. Not sure why people who are battling injuries get crucified. We already will have around 80 mil in cap, how much do we need? Agreed. He is a very good rotational player when available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 LOL....here's the snap count for the season. Only one game this season when both were healthy did Shaq get more snaps. OP did the same thing yesterday with Charles Clay. Get your facts straight man....geezus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Joeziehmer said: What to do with Trent Murphy when all is said and done? Still battling injuries, when healthy losing out to Shaq Lawson, and becoming rotational with bad knees. I didn’t know we were looking for a compliment to Charles Clay on the other side of the ball. Truthfully a great signing of sabermetrics and playing “money ball” shouldn’t we be developing younger and healthier players? McBeane brought an end to a drought but lost a season and the locker room. Next season cutting Murphy would be a hit of $7.5 Million it’s not like a league minimum. So, do we keep bench warmers to avoid cap hits and hope they fit a rotation for at least a game? I'm sorry, what? I understand the season, but the locker room? What have you seen the last few weeks that makes you think he has lost the locker room? Murphy has decent production for a rotational guy. Why do we need to cut him? What do we gain by doing that? Its not like we need the cap room. What is this thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Good depth player and very good when healthy. We are getting out of dead cap hell, why get buried again? Our cap situation is great. We have 10 picks. Lets not create holes, so we can improve upon roster where it is needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Why can't we have both Lawson and Murphy? Is it a bad thing to have at least two solid DE's in a rotation? Two DEs that can’t rush the passer aren’t worth much. Murphy isn’t moving well at all and bringing him back at 8.5? is an unnessecary gamble. Go back into FA and spin the wheel again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 We badly needed help on the D-Line this offseason, and Trent Murphy has been a solid rotational DE when healthy. Part of the reason that he's playing less is because the "younger and healthier" Shaq Lawson is developing into one of our better players. Not because he is playing bad. Overall his cap hit (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/trent-murphy-14456/) the next two years is pretty easy to manage ($6.8 and 7.2 million). Especially considering the large amount of cap space we have available. And if the Bills decide to move on, the dead cap is only $3.5 and $1.7 million in 2019-2020 - not the large number that you stated in the original post. I'm also curious about your comment of Beane/McDermott "losing the locker room" this season, which is a total joke with absolutely no basis. This team was a finger-tip catch away from winning 3 games in a row. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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