PUNT750 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 How can the Bills out gain a team 415-160 in total yards, 24-15 in 1st downs and 66-50 in total plays and still lose on the road! We had 13 penalties for 120 yards. We had 3 turn-overs and Miami had just 1. One of our turn-overs was Allen's desperation toss into the end zone at the end of the first half. I blame this coaching staff. They've collected some pretty good back-up players that are filling in as starters in the NFL but nobody seems to be coaching them up or making them better. Some on the o-line are worse. PENALTIES!!!! I keep hearing every week in the press conferences that we're working to correct techniques. We now lead the NFL with 100 total penalties. Stupid penalties. Blocking in the back, obvious holding in the o-line, false starts etc. What the hell goes on in practice? Are these guys too rich or too stupid to be coached??? Our Special Teams coach should have been fired years ago. Too many men on the field, holding, blocking in the back and general confusion. Our head coach keeps changing punters and now our really great place-kicker is suffering with a new holder every few weeks. By missing a FG and Extra Point today the game was lost. Why couldn't the team find someone else on the roster to learn the holding duties? Maybe Barkley, Hyde or Logan Thomas? And, finally, why do they keep giving the ball to Ivory. He's done. The pitch outs to him were laughable. Six carries for 4 total yards. When Shady made a few runs towards the end of the game he looked like a tired, old horse. Is the coach and the staff too into his players? A bit afraid to hurt ego's? They should have never lost this game - never! 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 oye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The scoreboard dictates the strategy in real time you can have 1000 yards to my -10 as long as I have one more point on the scoreboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: How can the Bills out gain a team 415-160 in total yards, 24-15 in 1st downs and 66-50 in total plays and still lose on the road! We had 13 penalties for 120 yards. We had 3 turn-overs and Miami had just 1. One of our turn-overs was Allen's desperation toss into the end zone at the end of the first half. I blame this coaching staff. They've collected some pretty good back-up players that are filling in as starters in the NFL but nobody seems to be coaching them up or making them better. Some on the o-line are worse. PENALTIES!!!! I keep hearing every week in the press conferences that we're working to correct techniques. We now lead the NFL with 100 total penalties. Stupid penalties. Blocking in the back, obvious holding in the o-line, false starts etc. What the hell goes on in practice? Are these guys too rich or too stupid to be coached??? Our Special Teams coach should have been fired years ago. Too many men on the field, holding, blocking in the back and general confusion. Our head coach keeps changing punters and now our really great place-kicker is suffering with a new holder every few weeks. By missing a FG and Extra Point today the game was lost. Why couldn't the team find someone else on the roster to learn the holding duties? Maybe Barkley, Hyde or Logan Thomas? And, finally, why do they keep giving the ball to Ivory. He's done. The pitch outs to him were laughable. Six carries for 4 total yards. When Shady made a few runs towards the end of the game he looked like a tired, old horse. Is the coach and the staff too into his players? A bit afraid to hurt ego's? They should have never lost this game - never! McDermott wants to be liked . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I guess you can score in football in more ways than racking up yards on O? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The biggest mistake was running on 1st and 2nd down right before halftime. Could have used extra time to get closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Time to punt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 This is a bad thread not the worse of the week, but maybe the worst of the day. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Many of the penalties are due to a lack of talent on the offensive line. And that happened primarily because we lost two starting OLs after free agency/draft and had no viable options to replace them with at that point. Schmidt wasn't getting much hang time on his punts and that was a disaster waiting to happen. Add 2-3 starting OLs and I think our offense really takes shape. I'd like to see Clay and Hughes not on next year's roster, it would be nice to get something for them. I think they are bringing Allen along nicely- he has a Ben Rothlisburger type trait in that he has to be wrapped up to be brought down- and he's a bit elusive with good pocket awareness. I wasn't expecting that. Our offense showed a good sense of urgency and pace in the two-minute drill and I was pleased with that. McCoy has something left, but I don't care if they move on from him as he is on the downside. If Benjamin would come back at cost, I'd consider it- he's had bad hands this year, but has drawn some holdiing and pass interference penalties, so the potential is there. I like Zay Jones and Robert Foster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) I watched this game and thought the same thing. It’s wasn’t a well coached game. For starters challenging Tannehill safety wasn’t a good idea and worse left us with one less timeout. Then not kicking the FG at the end of the half. We tend to blame all ST mistakes on the ST coach so I’ll spare Crossman for a minute. Edited December 3, 2018 by Dr.Sack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Adam said: Many of the penalties are due to a lack of talent on the offensive line. And that happened primarily because we lost two starting OLs after free agency/draft and had no viable options to replace them with at that point. Schmidt wasn't getting much hang time on his punts and that was a disaster waiting to happen. Add 2-3 starting OLs and I think our offense really takes shape. I'd like to see Clay and Hughes not on next year's roster, it would be nice to get something for them. I think they are bringing Allen along nicely- he has a Ben Rothlisburger type trait in that he has to be wrapped up to be brought down- and he's a bit elusive with good pocket awareness. I wasn't expecting that. Our offense showed a good sense of urgency and pace in the two-minute drill and I was pleased with that. McCoy has something left, but I don't care if they move on from him as he is on the downside. If Benjamin would come back at cost, I'd consider it- he's had bad hands this year, but has drawn some holdiing and pass interference penalties, so the potential is there. I like Zay Jones and Robert Foster Why the hate on Hughes? He's a monster out there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I noticed McDermott referenced "our young football team" in his very first statement of the PC after the game. He loves to do that. [We're the 5th oldest team in the league]. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: How can the Bills out gain a team 415-160 in total yards, 24-15 in 1st downs and 66-50 in total plays and still lose on the road! We had 13 penalties for 120 yards. We had 3 turn-overs and Miami had just 1. One of our turn-overs was Allen's desperation toss into the end zone at the end of the first half. I blame this coaching staff. They've collected some pretty good back-up players that are filling in as starters in the NFL but nobody seems to be coaching them up or making them better. Some on the o-line are worse. PENALTIES!!!! I keep hearing every week in the press conferences that we're working to correct techniques. We now lead the NFL with 100 total penalties. Stupid penalties. Blocking in the back, obvious holding in the o-line, false starts etc. What the hell goes on in practice? Are these guys too rich or too stupid to be coached??? Our Special Teams coach should have been fired years ago. Too many men on the field, holding, blocking in the back and general confusion. Our head coach keeps changing punters and now our really great place-kicker is suffering with a new holder every few weeks. By missing a FG and Extra Point today the game was lost. Why couldn't the team find someone else on the roster to learn the holding duties? Maybe Barkley, Hyde or Logan Thomas? And, finally, why do they keep giving the ball to Ivory. He's done. The pitch outs to him were laughable. Six carries for 4 total yards. When Shady made a few runs towards the end of the game he looked like a tired, old horse. Is the coach and the staff too into his players? A bit afraid to hurt ego's? They should have never lost this game - never! You need to relax bro. You're way to high after wins and way to low after losses. Just relax a bit and enjoy the ride. This team is far from the finished product they want on the field. When that team is assembled you can then be going after the coach and gm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 In all seriousness I’m putting this on who ever is making the decisions involving this revolving door of punters. You need consistency in taking snaps and placing the ball for a kicker. You can’t bring a guy in on Thursday and throw him in. A kicker has to have a ball placed a certain way. If they knew they were going to make a switch why not have Barkley take snaps and hold the ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Why the hate on Hughes? He's a monster out there. He claimed he didn't even remember going after the ref after the game. Someone like that is a problem. Whether he remembers or not, he's going to probably be suspended and I expect this to be a recurring theme (he's always been a hothead). Best to cut ties early with this kind of thing. And yes, on the field he is a very good player, so no hate, just being pragmatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The penalties were bad that said the officiating was very lopsided in this game how many headshots did our rookie qb take in this game IN the oocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Botched end of half was a major concern and holding a team to sub 200yds and not going for it on 4th and 1 at the 50 equates to playing scared. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Adam said: He claimed he didn't even remember going after the ref after the game. Someone like that is a problem. Whether he remembers or not, he's going to probably be suspended and I expect this to be a recurring theme (he's always been a hothead). Best to cut ties early with this kind of thing. And yes, on the field he is a very good player, so no hate, just being pragmatic I personally have no problem with Hughes calling a grown man out for saying what he said to him. Let's be honest, if the ref and Hughes were on the street would he have said what he did to Hughes? The ref needs to be held accountable for his actions. Hughes has done a great job of reducing his dumb penalties on the field but when a ref says what he says I have no problem with Hughes calling him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: How can the Bills out gain a team 415-160 in total yards, 24-15 in 1st downs and 66-50 in total plays and still lose on the road! We had 13 penalties for 120 yards. We had 3 turn-overs and Miami had just 1. One of our turn-overs was Allen's desperation toss into the end zone at the end of the first half. I blame this coaching staff. They've collected some pretty good back-up players that are filling in as starters in the NFL but nobody seems to be coaching them up or making them better. Some on the o-line are worse. PENALTIES!!!! I keep hearing every week in the press conferences that we're working to correct techniques. We now lead the NFL with 100 total penalties. Stupid penalties. Blocking in the back, obvious holding in the o-line, false starts etc. What the hell goes on in practice? Are these guys too rich or too stupid to be coached??? Our Special Teams coach should have been fired years ago. Too many men on the field, holding, blocking in the back and general confusion. Our head coach keeps changing punters and now our really great place-kicker is suffering with a new holder every few weeks. By missing a FG and Extra Point today the game was lost. Why couldn't the team find someone else on the roster to learn the holding duties? Maybe Barkley, Hyde or Logan Thomas? And, finally, why do they keep giving the ball to Ivory. He's done. The pitch outs to him were laughable. Six carries for 4 total yards. When Shady made a few runs towards the end of the game he looked like a tired, old horse. Is the coach and the staff too into his players? A bit afraid to hurt ego's? They should have never lost this game - never! You just answered your own question. The coaching staff needs to shoulder some of the blame, especially the play calling at the end of the first half and the safety challenge. The officiating also played a big part in the outcome. Edited December 3, 2018 by RaoulDuke79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Would anyone disagree that we have a special teams problem? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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