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Josh Allen will be a 2019 NFL MVP candidate

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On 6/18/2019 at 11:26 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Carson Wentz had 16 TDs to 14 interceptions and Mitch Trubisky had 7 TDs and 7 INTs and Jared Goff had 5 TDs and 7 INTs in their rookie years and drastically improved in year 2.

 

It's coming... embrace it :thumbsup:

 

Which one of them won NFL MVP? Remind me. 

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3 hours ago, Elite Poster said:

 

Which one of them won NFL MVP? Remind me. 

 

Is this thread about how Josh Allen will win NFL MVP? Remind me.

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3 hours ago, Elite Poster said:

 

Which one of them won NFL MVP? Remind me. 

 

Enough of my snarkiness.

 

Both Wentz and Goff were legitimately part of the conversation for NFL MVP very late into the season.

 

Trubisky wasn't. I included him more because of the stark improvement from year 1 to year 2. If Allen has a statistical improvement in line with Trubisky's statistical improvement from year 1 to year 2, I think Allen will absolutely be in that conversation for NFL MVP.

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On ‎6‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 5:35 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Enough of my snarkiness.

 

Both Wentz and Goff were legitimately part of the conversation for NFL MVP very late into the season.

 

Trubisky wasn't. I included him more because of the stark improvement from year 1 to year 2. If Allen has a statistical improvement in line with Trubisky's statistical improvement from year 1 to year 2, I think Allen will absolutely be in that conversation for NFL MVP.

 

Wentz was. He might have won it had his knee not blown. Goff less so (in his 2nd season at least). He was a little more in year 3. 

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6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Wentz was. He might have won it had his knee not blown. Goff less so (in his 2nd season at least). He was a little more in year 3. 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000888976/article/tom-brady-leads-tight-mvp-race-heading-into-final-stretch-of-2017

 

Published: Dec. 6, 2017 at 03:33 p.m.
Updated: Dec. 6, 2017 at 04:48 p.m.

Tom Brady leads tight MVP race heading into final stretch of 2017

 

 

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This has to be the biggest surprise of the top five candidates. Before the season started, there was some question as to whether Goff could even be the Rams' quarterback long-term. Since then, he's helped push Los Angeles (9-3) to Super Bowlcontention while improving each week. Now we can see why Goff was picked first overall in the 2016 NFL Draft. He's just doing everything better, from spinning the ball to going to the right receivers. Goff has been helped by the resurgence of Todd Gurley -- the way the quarterback and running back feed off each other, they remind me of Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliottwith the Cowboys last season. Coach Sean McVay has played a huge role in Goff's success, coming up with some concepts that are totally new and novel -- if Goff were to win this award, he and McVay should split the trophy in half. 

2017 stats: 12 games | 62.2 pct | 3,184 pass yds | 8.1 ypa | 20 pass TD | 6 INT | 1 rush TD
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4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000888976/article/tom-brady-leads-tight-mvp-race-heading-into-final-stretch-of-2017

THE BRANDT REPORT
Published: Dec. 6, 2017 at 03:33 p.m.
Updated: Dec. 6, 2017 at 04:48 p.m.

Tom Brady leads tight MVP race heading into final stretch of 2017

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With a month left in the 2017 NFL season, let's take the temperature of what has turned into a veryclose MVP race.

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There really isn't very much separating the first three of the top 10 candidates listed below; one could make a realistic argument for each of these players to be No. 1. This list reflects how I'd order the MVP race as of today, but it could change by next week.

First, a note: I feel there should almost be two MVP awards, one for quarterbacks and one for everybody else. I understand why quarterbacks have dominated this award in recent years, given how much more directly involved they are with what happens on the field than any other player, and that's why they naturally make up the top half of the list below. But I'd like to show some love to those who toil at other positions, as well. So the best non-QB candidates round out the bottom five.

One other thing: I couldn't list every player having a strong season. Vikings quarterback Case Keenum, for example, is playing well, but I couldn't find room for him among the QBs, so he missed the cut.

THE QBs (OR, THE CONTENDERS)

 

 

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Brady's numbers are impressive enough on their own. When you consider that he's 40 years old and playing in his 18th NFL season, they're jaw-dropping. This Patriots team is not quite as strong as some past editions, but Brady just continues to win. Brady's leading the NFL in completions (300) and passing yards (3,632), with a yards-per-attempt figure (8.3) that matches the second-best of his career. He seems to know what the opposing defense is going to do before it happens. He can fire the ball in there or feather it, and he has a sixth sense to tell when rushers and blitzers are coming. Like Sandy Koufax, the older Brady gets, the better he gets. 

2017 stats: 12 games | 68.5 pct | 3,632 pass yds | 8.3 ypa | 26 pass TD | 4 INT

 

 

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Wilson and Carson Wentz are extremely close. These kinds of races come down to two things: numbers and feel. Given how similar Wilson's and Wentz's stats are, feel is the deciding factor. On Sunday morning, I had Wentz ahead of Wilson. But then Wilson's Seahawks beat Wentz's Eaglesand, well, a W will do more for you than an L. Wilson is winning despite Seattle's run-game deficiencies and a defense missing Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor and Cliff Avril. Yet, Seattle (8-4) has a better record through Week 13 than it did at this point last season. The offense has no identity beyond Wilson -- everything runs through him. The quarterback has had a hand in all but one of Seattle's offensive touchdowns in 2017. 

2017 stats: 12 games | 62.4 pct | 3,256 pass yds | 7.4 ypa | 26 pass TD | 8 INT | 432 rush yds | 3 rush TD

 

 

 

 

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In just his second NFL season, Wentz has helped turn the 10-2 Eagles into a legitimate Super Bowlcontender. He has three more wins already than he did in his rookie season, plus a league-leading 29 touchdown passes (vs. 16 last year) against just six picks (vs. 14 last year). His yards-per-attempt figure has improved from 6.0 to 7.5. Of course, Wentz has been helped by Philadelphia's improved running back group and receiving corps. Even so, he's just barely behind Wilson and Brady in a chase that will likely come down to a photo finish. The amazing thing about Wentz is just how athletic he is for a player of his size (6-foot-5, 237 pounds). Nothing holds him back. 

2017 stats: 12 games | 60.7 pct | 3,005 pass yds | 7.5 ypa | 29 pass TD | 6 INT | 283 rush yds | 0 rush TD

 

 

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Don't be fooled by Brees' statistical output, which is jarringly low for a quarterback who has averaged 5,000-plus passing yards over the past seven seasons. Most teams that start 0-2 tend to fold up the tent, but New Orleans (9-3) didn't, and I'm sure Brees' presence and leadership played a large role in overcoming that early stumbling block. Like Wentz in Philadelphia, Brees has benefitted from an improved supporting cast, with the defense and the Alvin Kamara- Mark Ingramrunning back duo taking on a larger-than-usual share of the burden in New Orleans. But that doesn't diminish Brees' importance to the Saints. The 17th-year pro has the kind of amazing ability to read defenses that only comes with experience. He knows when to get out of a play, and you can see how he orchestrates things on the line of scrimmage -- he's more or less a coach on the field. 

2017 stats: 12 games | 71.5 pct | 3,298 pass yds | 8.1 ypa | 17 pass TD | 5 INT | 2 rush TD

 

 

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This has to be the biggest surprise of the top five candidates. Before the season started, there was some question as to whether Goff could even be the Rams' quarterback long-term. Since then, he's helped push Los Angeles (9-3) to Super Bowlcontention while improving each week. Now we can see why Goff was picked first overall in the 2016 NFL Draft. He's just doing everything better, from spinning the ball to going to the right receivers. Goff has been helped by the resurgence of Todd Gurley -- the way the quarterback and running back feed off each other, they remind me of Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliottwith the Cowboys last season. Coach Sean McVay has played a huge role in Goff's success, coming up with some concepts that are totally new and novel -- if Goff were to win this award, he and McVay should split the trophy in half. 

2017 stats: 12 games | 62.2 pct | 3,184 pass yds | 8.1 ypa | 20 pass TD | 6 INT | 1 rush TD

 

One guy's opinion. Those stats are never winning the MVP in this era. If that is the standard then sure Josh has a shot to be in Gil Brandt's top 10. 

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

One guy's opinion. Those stats are never winning the MVP in this era. If that is the standard then sure Josh has a shot to be in Gil Brandt's top 10. 

 

One reputable guy.

 

He was part of the conversation as a candidate. That's the point.

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Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

One reputable guy.

 

He was part of the conversation as a candidate. That's the point.

 

No he wasn't. There was a Ram in contention. But it was Gurley. Not Goff. 

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46 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

One guy's opinion...

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Look, I'd be delighted if Josh has a sophomore year like Goff. But it would not, in my opinion make your prediction right. I checked about 10 lists last night from the end of the season. Dear old Gil was the only one who had Goff on his. To be an MVP candidate Josh has to be in the national conversation. Not just a name one guy throws out there. In any normal season there are like 3 or 4 names in the national conversation. The year you are talking about those 4 were Brady, Brees, Wentz and Gurley. 

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On 6/26/2019 at 8:48 PM, Elite Poster said:

 

Which one of them won NFL MVP? Remind me. 

Id put more money on JA winning MVP than you being an elite poster😎

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