row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: Im guessing they expect Allen to fire a laser so hard that it sticks in the face mask.... Deliverd on that Mister Rogers Jollytown Trolley 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: It hit him in the hands. Where else should he have located it? Geez, it was total hell to get told ”if you can touch it you can catch it” when it grazed the tip of one finger let alone when It’s in your handzzzzz Edited December 3, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I don't know, that pass went 40 yards from the left numbers to the right numbers, after a necessary 40 yard scramble, thrown away from his body. It hit the hands of the receiver. Considering all that, I have a hard time calling that pass, which most NFL QBs couldn't come close to completing, a bad pass. The real question should be, with the Bills needing 11 yards for a first down, and more than enough time on the clock, why was a play called where all the receivers ended up in the end zone? Daboll called a hail mary when he didn't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I mean maybe he stumbled idk? Seems like he should have got in position to catch it though even if he doesn’t get the TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I’m told 10 percent of people are totally unreasonable on any interaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Did Wes Welker drop this? Is this a catch that a WR should make routinely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I can't believe this is actually a serious question. Do people even remember what Allen had to do to even get that throw off? It was an amazing play by him. Bad pass lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 98 percent on Welker crime against humanity on Clay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Both: poor pass on the run, but still should have been caught. He made a great play to get away, but needed to take the time that he bought to make a semi-accurate throw. Clay was WIDE open and, yes, Allen was running the other direction, but if he’d have set his feet, he could have made a very good throw. i *hope* that this is a hangover from playing on a very under-talented Wyoming team (and a bottom 5 NFL offense), but he NEEDS to clean up the ducks he is throwing. Some of that will come if they can put a good OL in front of him and some will come with good NFL receivers, but he can’t have 10% ducks and succeed in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Good that Allan is classy enough to pretend to take some blame He doesn’t mean it and that’s fine ————- help me here, the Bills get a last second shot at a Hail Mary and after scrambling for his life he has a wide open huge-contract man all alone in the EZ and he delivers it right in his hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Mostly on Clay. He didn’t get his hands under the ball enough. It was almost like he was a catcher blocking a ball in the dirt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Any pass that deep in that situation was at least decent. Clay was his usual non-factor. Slow to come back and help, slow to break to the ball, and he failed to make a big play, even though it was a tough catch of a wobbly pass. Worst players on the field that play were Groy and the guard helping him as they both failed to contain a single pass rusher making it impossible for Allen to step up into the pocket and buy time for the pattern to develop. I looked at the replay 20 times. Both edge rushers were quickly beating our OTs wide and at the same time that all the WRs were only about 5 yard down the field with their backs turned. Miami had coverage on a check down, coverage on the first down marker, and they had people deep. Deep was the best option, to bad Allen had to run all over the place to make time to deliver it. Our OL is woeful. That play could have been was a routine 12 yard out pattern with another WR crossing the middle between the deep zone and the first down marker. All it takes is protection against a 3 man rush. Groy is so bad he makes Bodine look good. Edited December 3, 2018 by Bob in STL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: It hit him in the hands. Where else should he have located it? It hit him in the hands because he dove for it. Still should have been caught, but a "good pass" wouldn't have fluttered down the field (like a couple did today) and would have gotten to a wide open receiver without him diving. Good lord, if people don't say Allen is a 100% perfect Hall of Fame worthy golden child, y'all get so pissy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 By a professional standard that ball MUST be caught by a 7 million a year dude. Of course it could have been a better throw but it got there and it was not a top of the grass kind of deal. This is all on Clay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Dawkins would have caught it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, MPT said: It hit him in the hands because he dove for it. Still should have been caught, but a "good pass" wouldn't have fluttered down the field (like a couple did today) and would have gotten to a wide open receiver without him diving. Good lord, if people don't say Allen is a 100% perfect Hall of Fame worthy golden child, y'all get so pissy. Actually, this thread is about one pass - not Josh Allen's legacy. All season, including other plays today, WRs have had Allen passes hit their hands and not catch them. It's almost as if our WRs are being coached to catch the ball with their body. This isn't Pop Warner. NFL WRs have to catch balls that hit them in the hands. The good ones do, week in/week out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, MPT said: It hit him in the hands because he dove for it. Still should have been caught, but a "good pass" wouldn't have fluttered down the field (like a couple did today) and would have gotten to a wide open receiver without him diving. Good lord, if people don't say Allen is a 100% perfect Hall of Fame worthy golden child, y'all get so pissy. The question was not if it was perfect- the pass was not equal to his foster throw laat week- but it was effective in that it hit a receiver who was open in the hands. If it hits a reciever in the hands and bread basket it must be caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, MPT said: It hit him in the hands because he dove for it. Still should have been caught, but a "good pass" wouldn't have fluttered down the field (like a couple did today) and would have gotten to a wide open receiver without him diving. Good lord, if people don't say Allen is a 100% perfect Hall of Fame worthy golden child, y'all get so pissy. But he didnt dive for it. He stumbled and tripped over his own feet. Then lunged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The only decent ending the last decade was EJs last minute drive at Carolina maybe it’s just as well; that catch today might have killed off 15,000 fans with a heart attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Any pass that deep in that situation was at least decent. Clay was his usual non-factor. Slow to come back and help, slow to break to the ball, and he failed to make a big play, even though it was a tough catch of a wobbly pass. Worst players on the field that play were Groy and the guard helping him as they both failed to contain a single pass rusher making it impossible for Allen to step up into the pocket and buy time for the pattern to develop. I looked at the replay 20 times. Both edge rushers were quickly beating our OTs wide and at the same time that all the WRs were only about 5 yard down the field with their backs turned. Miami had coverage on a check down, coverage on the first down marker, and they had people deep. Deep was the best option, to bad Allen had to run all over the place to make time to deliver it. Our OL is woeful. That play could have been was a routine 12 yard out pattern with another WR crossing the middle between the deep zone and the first down marker. All it takes is protection against a 2 man rush. Groy is so bad he makes Bodine look good. It was a 3 man rush. I think Allen should have slid to the right to avoid it. He stepped into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, MPT said: It hit him in the hands because he dove for it. Still should have been caught, but a "good pass" wouldn't have fluttered down the field (like a couple did today) and would have gotten to a wide open receiver without him diving. Good lord, if people don't say Allen is a 100% perfect Hall of Fame worthy golden child, y'all get so pissy. You saw what Allen did to get the ball to the EZ? You realize what a near miracle that was amd you still whine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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