RoyBatty is alive Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: Hmmmmm Either people arent being truthful, or they are very easily swayed. This would be a VERY lopsided poll in the other direction last july. I guess it fits with the league being a 'what have you done for me lately ' type situation. I like Allen. I like his moxy. I also remember scaring the crap out of my dogs by yelling so loud after the allen pick that they didnt come back into that room for a good hour after the fact - both that they didnt get to #2 and they picked the wrong josh. My wife was a bit more positive however. As i said then, he is now our guy and itll be fun to root for him.... but if i felt that way then im not sure 7 starts should do much either way... Last July, I would bet fans would vote for Darnold 24 hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Last July, I would bet fans would vote for Darnold 24 hours ago. Not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 36 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: I would take Allen. I would’ve take Allen before the season as well. Too much upside to ignore, he’s still super raw but the sky can be the limit. That being said, Mayfield was always the guy I wanted. Mayfield was not within reach......(well neither was Darnold for that matter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, Coach55 said: Early stats - how about this crappy QB for his first 3 years... name that QB G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate 1 0 15 27 55.6 221 1 3.7 0 0 40 8.2 8.9 14.7 221 94.8 16 16 320 526 60.8 3284 17 3.2 16 3 52 6.2 5.5 10.3 205.3 76.9 11 11 205 356 57.6 2108 11 3.1 15 4.2 68 5.9 4.6 10.3 191.6 67.5 Mariota? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, Coach55 said: Early stats - how about this crappy QB for his first 3 years... name that QB G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate 1 0 15 27 55.6 221 1 3.7 0 0 40 8.2 8.9 14.7 221 94.8 16 16 320 526 60.8 3284 17 3.2 16 3 52 6.2 5.5 10.3 205.3 76.9 11 11 205 356 57.6 2108 11 3.1 15 4.2 68 5.9 4.6 10.3 191.6 67.5 Rob Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 will post the answer at 4pm. No one got it yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) at this point neither.. Josh runs and occasionally throws an accurate pass. He has a LONG LONG way to go IMO when he throws consistently and averages about 200 yds a game then I will START to believe in him Edited November 26, 2018 by ddaryl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Predraft I had them Mayfield, Allen, Rosen, then Darnold. Too many people didn’t take it serious enough when it was brought up that Allen had absolutely no one to play with at Wyoming. You can’t develop a QB when your line and receivers are that bad. Unfortunately he’s had to deal with a lot of that in the early part of the season with the Bills. I was never a fan of Darnold and would have been upset if we had ended up with him. When the Jets took him, they cheered, and I smiled. He is a turnover machine. He was in college, and he is a turnover waiting to happen in the NFL. Nothing will change with this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Based on my work done prior to the draft I'd have taken Rosen. I still haven't seen enough from any QB to move me off of that spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mconwxdr Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Drew Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I think id stick with Darnold if I were the Jets...but this one is very tough. Wonder which QB would do better with two good rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 45 minutes ago, Coach55 said: Early stats - how about this crappy QB for his first 3 years... name that QB G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate 1 0 15 27 55.6 221 1 3.7 0 0 40 8.2 8.9 14.7 221 94.8 16 16 320 526 60.8 3284 17 3.2 16 3 52 6.2 5.5 10.3 205.3 76.9 11 11 205 356 57.6 2108 11 3.1 15 4.2 68 5.9 4.6 10.3 191.6 67.5 Drew Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) We have some winners (Drew Brees it is)... Early stats don't necessarily point to how well a player is going to play. Peyton threw 28 pics his rookie season. Let the next few seasons play out and then come back with the question. Edited November 26, 2018 by Coach55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Is this going to be done after every game? Yes. Now and forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 This is a great question: I would still lean Darnold but not by much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 IMHO, Josh Allen was always about the long game. Darnold may have been a bit more NFL ready in terms of pedigree, but I think Josh Allen's potential is unbelievably high. To me Drafting Josh Allen was the equivalent of taking a real, unbroken stallion and turning him into one of the lite race horses of all time. It takes hard work, patience, dedication to the craft, and a refining ability to hone in on the talent and intangibles that can make him great. It also takes a nuanced comprehension that really NOBODY knew / knows if he possesses in that the ability to read and adjust to an NFL Defense pre-snap. Somewhere on the internet, a.k.a. Twitter-verse, a comparison was done of all the collegiate starts among the top 10 QB Rookies and Allen by far had the fewest. So he was the most raw, with the least exposure but with the greatest potential. IMO, the remains true. It will be a few years before we know what Josh Allen truly is or is not, but as of today with the progress I've seen, I'd take Allen for all the reasons listed above. If I were a team like the Ravens or 49ers, probably Darnold. Darnold is more NFL ready in total, or a year ahead in his development, but I just think if Allen puts it all together, we have the makings of one of the best QBs, and certainly the best Bills QB since (maybe ever) JK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Darnold is very difficult to evaluate because the Jets are as bad as it gets in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 57 minutes ago, Coach55 said: Early stats - how about this crappy QB for his first 3 years... name that QB G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate 1 0 15 27 55.6 221 1 3.7 0 0 40 8.2 8.9 14.7 221 94.8 16 16 320 526 60.8 3284 17 3.2 16 3 52 6.2 5.5 10.3 205.3 76.9 11 11 205 356 57.6 2108 11 3.1 15 4.2 68 5.9 4.6 10.3 191.6 67.5 Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, BigBuff423 said: If I were a team like the Ravens or 49ers, probably Darnold. Darnold is more NFL ready in total, or a year ahead in his development What about Darnold’s performance leads you to believe this? IMO, there is zero actual evidence to support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Darnold is very difficult to evaluate because the Jets are as bad as it gets in the NFL. 3 weeks ago, weren't we saying the Bills were a historically bad offense as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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