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Is this a playoff team with Tyrod?

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We have almost a carbon copy of last years team in an even weaker playoff battle. With Tyrod I think it would have been back to back playoff years. Give him two turnovers in a game and he wins more often than not. No, I don't think he's good. But what he does do is protect the ball, enhance the running game, and to some extent mask poor offensive line play. Whats even more silly about the whole thing is he gets traded to the exact same situation he would have faced here. Perhaps he would have had the same fate in Buffalo he has in Cleveland if he was retained. I know Taylor has been talked to nauseous levels. I just find the thought process on this interesting and I'm curious what others think. Is this a playoff team with Taylor?   

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No.  Maybe 7-8 wins versus 5-6 this year.  Don't forget as well Richie Incognito imo played a big part in the O Line success last year

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No.  

I don’t think so.  Can only see 1 win more at this time.  

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11 minutes ago, KzooMike said:

We have almost a carbon copy of last years team in an even weaker playoff battle. With Tyrod I think it would have been back to back playoff years. Give him two turnovers in a game and he wins more often than not. No, I don't think he's good. But what he does do is protect the ball, enhance the running game, and to some extent mask poor offensive line play. Whats even more silly about the whole thing is he gets traded to the exact same situation he would have faced here. Perhaps he would have had the same fate in Buffalo he has in Cleveland if he was retained. I know Taylor has been talked to nauseous levels. I just find the thought process on this interesting and I'm curious what others think. Is this a playoff team with Taylor?   

possible. but I think barkley is better --so you could propose the same thing w barkley.Of course we are assuming a 4-5 start vs a 2-7 start caused by our impossibly horrid QBing so far.

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I'll bite OP, and this is coming from a big T Mobile fan,

 

Allen is almost to the point of being able to manage a game as well as Taylor already as a rookie in my humble opinion. 

 

Barkley in less then two weeks time in Buffalo made them both look bad...

 

...I'm just saying...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The only question should be: Would this ever be a Super Bowl team with Tyrod?

The answer is a resounding NO.

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Of course they would be more competitive with TT. The defense has played terribly in some games though too. At this point in the season, my best guess is they have two more wins with an easy schedule coming up. It would end up coming down to the final week and tie breakers.

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11 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

No.  Maybe 7-8 wins versus 5-6 this year.  Don't forget as well Richie Incognito imo played a big part in the O Line success last year

 

The 2 of best offensive starters retired. Replacements aren’t nearly as good. I do think Daboll might scheme around TT better then Dennison could. I’d say it’s a push, but the peterman blowouts would been competitive 

 

 

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It's a possibility with how open the AFC is, our favorable schedule the 2nd half of the season, and our defense is better than last year.  He hid our offensive pass protection problems and kept a lot of drives alive with his feet giving our defense time to rest.  Not throwing interceptions also helps your defense.

 

The biggest knocks about him is he didn't see the field well and he didn't take enough chances up the field.  Our QB's this year have been worse in those areas this year.  The team mentality would've been different with him as the starter so it's pointless to compare previous games.  We could easily be looking at another 9-7 season with this defense and Tyrod at the helm.  

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22 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

No.  Maybe 7-8 wins versus 5-6 this year.  Don't forget as well Richie Incognito imo played a big part in the O Line success last year

 

Once you are in that .500 tier of quality.... it’s basically dumb luck on 7 vs 9 wins or 6th seed vs 10th. A couple bounces or luck with health or a bengals td throw against the ravens 

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I think the odds are against it given the degraded state of the offensive line.  One of the negatives on Tyrod is the time it takes him to read a defence and decide what he's going to do with the ball.  It led to a quite a few sacks even with his scrambling ability.  He would have had less time this year before the pockiet collapsed.  We'll see how the line does moving forward if Teller and Sirles continue to start in place of Ducasse and Mills.  

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Look at Buffalo's current offense.  Look at Cleveland's.  Look how "well" Tyrod did in Cleveland this season.  Tell me why in the name of all that's good and holy do you think Tyrod would have done better here, with the Bills, then he did in Cleveland.

 

Or, to be more concise...no.  Hell no.  Nope.  Non, nix, nay, nun-uh...

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1 hour ago, KzooMike said:

We have almost a carbon copy of last years team in an even weaker playoff battle. With Tyrod I think it would have been back to back playoff years. Give him two turnovers in a game and he wins more often than not. No, I don't think he's good. But what he does do is protect the ball, enhance the running game, and to some extent mask poor offensive line play. Whats even more silly about the whole thing is he gets traded to the exact same situation he would have faced here. Perhaps he would have had the same fate in Buffalo he has in Cleveland if he was retained. I know Taylor has been talked to nauseous levels. I just find the thought process on this interesting and I'm curious what others think. Is this a playoff team with Taylor?   

 

NFW this is a playoff team with TT.

 

This is a perennial Super Bowl team with TT.

 

Flip the 4 straight losses to 4 straight Lombardi's with TT at the helm. I just know it.

 

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In my opinion no way it’s a playoff team. Tyrod has regressed horribly the more he plays. He only gets worse. He has been trending down for what 3 years? Every season here his game went farther and farther downhill. One could argue he’s worse than our current 3 quarterbacks. Sure he can scramble a couple first downs for you every game. And he will take care of the ball. The majority of our losses were blowouts, are we in those games if the offense doesn’t throw picks? Is Tyrod bringing us back down 10? Down 20? We seen enough to know the answer is no. He is gonna 3 and out non stop. He is going to ignore portions of the field. More than likely make one read and run. 

First year here I thought Taylor was gonna be a star, man that guy threw the most gorgeous 50 yard bombs I may have ever seen. Just dropped them in there like it was nothing. 

Yet after that first season he couldn’t do it anymore. He couldn’t do anything. I feel like he was coached terribly into this scared little shell of himself. He took ball security more seriously than any other aspect of the game. And that ruined his whole game and probably his career 

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I liked the Barkley pick up more than most here but let's not talk him up like he's some amazing qb just yet.  As far as Tyrod he may have helped us win one more game but I don't see there being much of an improvement.

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If a tree falls in the woods and no oneis around to hear it, does it make a sound?

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8 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

If a tree falls in the woods and no oneis around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Why is this question constantly asked when it's been answered by quantum physics?

 

The answer is no. Without an observer, it never happened.

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I’ll pass on a possible wild card with no real hope of advancing team. I’d rather aim higher, and to do that you can have Tyrod as your backup, at best. I loved the guy, but he has his limits seeing and delivering all over the field. I just PRAY Josh can do better. 

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

No.  

I don’t think so.  Can only see 1 win more at this time.  

This is where I’m at. Houston is the only win that I’d add. It’s not a playoff team. 

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