Mikie2times Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 We have almost a carbon copy of last years team in an even weaker playoff battle. With Tyrod I think it would have been back to back playoff years. Give him two turnovers in a game and he wins more often than not. No, I don't think he's good. But what he does do is protect the ball, enhance the running game, and to some extent mask poor offensive line play. Whats even more silly about the whole thing is he gets traded to the exact same situation he would have faced here. Perhaps he would have had the same fate in Buffalo he has in Cleveland if he was retained. I know Taylor has been talked to nauseous levels. I just find the thought process on this interesting and I'm curious what others think. Is this a playoff team with Taylor? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 No. Maybe 7-8 wins versus 5-6 this year. Don't forget as well Richie Incognito imo played a big part in the O Line success last year 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 No. I don’t think so. Can only see 1 win more at this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsforDave Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 A better question; Is this a playoff team with Barkley? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, KzooMike said: We have almost a carbon copy of last years team in an even weaker playoff battle. With Tyrod I think it would have been back to back playoff years. Give him two turnovers in a game and he wins more often than not. No, I don't think he's good. But what he does do is protect the ball, enhance the running game, and to some extent mask poor offensive line play. Whats even more silly about the whole thing is he gets traded to the exact same situation he would have faced here. Perhaps he would have had the same fate in Buffalo he has in Cleveland if he was retained. I know Taylor has been talked to nauseous levels. I just find the thought process on this interesting and I'm curious what others think. Is this a playoff team with Taylor? possible. but I think barkley is better --so you could propose the same thing w barkley.Of course we are assuming a 4-5 start vs a 2-7 start caused by our impossibly horrid QBing so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) I'll bite OP, and this is coming from a big T Mobile fan, Allen is almost to the point of being able to manage a game as well as Taylor already as a rookie in my humble opinion. Barkley in less then two weeks time in Buffalo made them both look bad... ...I'm just saying... Edited November 16, 2018 by Figster 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 The only question should be: Would this ever be a Super Bowl team with Tyrod? The answer is a resounding NO. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Of course they would be more competitive with TT. The defense has played terribly in some games though too. At this point in the season, my best guess is they have two more wins with an easy schedule coming up. It would end up coming down to the final week and tie breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Another Fan said: No. Maybe 7-8 wins versus 5-6 this year. Don't forget as well Richie Incognito imo played a big part in the O Line success last year The 2 of best offensive starters retired. Replacements aren’t nearly as good. I do think Daboll might scheme around TT better then Dennison could. I’d say it’s a push, but the peterman blowouts would been competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 It's a possibility with how open the AFC is, our favorable schedule the 2nd half of the season, and our defense is better than last year. He hid our offensive pass protection problems and kept a lot of drives alive with his feet giving our defense time to rest. Not throwing interceptions also helps your defense. The biggest knocks about him is he didn't see the field well and he didn't take enough chances up the field. Our QB's this year have been worse in those areas this year. The team mentality would've been different with him as the starter so it's pointless to compare previous games. We could easily be looking at another 9-7 season with this defense and Tyrod at the helm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Another Fan said: No. Maybe 7-8 wins versus 5-6 this year. Don't forget as well Richie Incognito imo played a big part in the O Line success last year Once you are in that .500 tier of quality.... it’s basically dumb luck on 7 vs 9 wins or 6th seed vs 10th. A couple bounces or luck with health or a bengals td throw against the ravens 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I think the odds are against it given the degraded state of the offensive line. One of the negatives on Tyrod is the time it takes him to read a defence and decide what he's going to do with the ball. It led to a quite a few sacks even with his scrambling ability. He would have had less time this year before the pockiet collapsed. We'll see how the line does moving forward if Teller and Sirles continue to start in place of Ducasse and Mills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Better D. Worse OL. Better OC???? Maybe yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I didnt know TT could play defense, line, WR and special teams … AND call his own plays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Look at Buffalo's current offense. Look at Cleveland's. Look how "well" Tyrod did in Cleveland this season. Tell me why in the name of all that's good and holy do you think Tyrod would have done better here, with the Bills, then he did in Cleveland. Or, to be more concise...no. Hell no. Nope. Non, nix, nay, nun-uh... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, KzooMike said: We have almost a carbon copy of last years team in an even weaker playoff battle. With Tyrod I think it would have been back to back playoff years. Give him two turnovers in a game and he wins more often than not. No, I don't think he's good. But what he does do is protect the ball, enhance the running game, and to some extent mask poor offensive line play. Whats even more silly about the whole thing is he gets traded to the exact same situation he would have faced here. Perhaps he would have had the same fate in Buffalo he has in Cleveland if he was retained. I know Taylor has been talked to nauseous levels. I just find the thought process on this interesting and I'm curious what others think. Is this a playoff team with Taylor? NFW this is a playoff team with TT. This is a perennial Super Bowl team with TT. Flip the 4 straight losses to 4 straight Lombardi's with TT at the helm. I just know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 In my opinion no way it’s a playoff team. Tyrod has regressed horribly the more he plays. He only gets worse. He has been trending down for what 3 years? Every season here his game went farther and farther downhill. One could argue he’s worse than our current 3 quarterbacks. Sure he can scramble a couple first downs for you every game. And he will take care of the ball. The majority of our losses were blowouts, are we in those games if the offense doesn’t throw picks? Is Tyrod bringing us back down 10? Down 20? We seen enough to know the answer is no. He is gonna 3 and out non stop. He is going to ignore portions of the field. More than likely make one read and run. First year here I thought Taylor was gonna be a star, man that guy threw the most gorgeous 50 yard bombs I may have ever seen. Just dropped them in there like it was nothing. Yet after that first season he couldn’t do it anymore. He couldn’t do anything. I feel like he was coached terribly into this scared little shell of himself. He took ball security more seriously than any other aspect of the game. And that ruined his whole game and probably his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I liked the Barkley pick up more than most here but let's not talk him up like he's some amazing qb just yet. As far as Tyrod he may have helped us win one more game but I don't see there being much of an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) If a tree falls in the woods and no oneis around to hear it, does it make a sound? Edited November 16, 2018 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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