billsfan_34 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Shaq Lawson is really having a fine season. I was one of many on here that thought he just wasnt getting it at the NFL level. Guess it goes to show ya some just need time to develop- besides Pick Six Peterman lol. Go Bills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Shaq Lawson is really having a fine season. I was one of many on here that thought he just wasnt getting it at the NFL level. Guess it goes to show ya some just need time to develop- besides Pick Six Peterman lol. Go Bills I tried to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Agree. It's a toss up who has improved more this year - Zay or Shaq 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Irv said: Agree. It's a toss up who has improved more this year - Zay or Shaq I would say Shaq. Zay looks competent now. Shaq is actually an impact player now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Shaq Lawson is really having a fine season. I was one of many on here that thought he just wasnt getting it at the NFL level. Guess it goes to show ya some just need time to develop- besides Pick Six Peterman lol. Go Bills Takes a real man to fess up - good on you Shaq has been a revelation since Murphy went down. Hoping we can see a 4 man pass rush of Murphy/shaq/zo and Jerry get after Brady in a few weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Zay has turned into a decent #2 WR ... he's a helluva lot better than his rookie campaign. Shaq has improved as well and I would rather have him on the field at this point than the oft injured Murphy. TB12 sucks boys and girls ... Stay away from the steroids. Edited November 13, 2018 by frostbitmic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Agree he has played well this year... So like I asked in the last Shaq thread - do they pick up his 5th year option for 2020? I think it will cost them $10-11M... Its a tough decision I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Agree he has played well this year... So like I asked in the last Shaq thread - do they pick up his 5th year option for 2020? I think it will cost them $10-11M... Its a tough decision I think... If it's between Shaq and Murphy, you pick up the option and dump Murphy. It's a bit high, but it's worth it as a one year investment to see if he'll continue to develop. Unless we're drafting DE in round 1, which I doubt, you keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I tried to tell you. No doubt- you cant pull water out of a rock ? Edited November 13, 2018 by billsfan_34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, LSHMEAB said: If it's between Shaq and Murphy, you pick up the option and dump Murphy. It's a bit high, but it's worth it as a one year investment to see if he'll continue to develop. Unless we're drafting DE in round 1, which I doubt, you keep him. Yeah... that’s probably the way to go... Its a decent chunk of coin... they are paying Hughes $9m per year for comparison... but as Shaq still seems to be improving I think you pony up and give yourself another year to evaluate him.. They also seem to have the money to spare.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Agree he has played well this year... So like I asked in the last Shaq thread - do they pick up his 5th year option for 2020? I think it will cost them $10-11M... Its a tough decision I think... 4 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I hope I eat crow on Daboll, Beane and McD. I'd love for them to make me look stupid and I'm beginning to think that's going to happen. Win the next 4 please. Shut me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Yeah... that’s probably the way to go... Its a decent chunk of coin... they are paying Hughes $9m per year for comparison... but as Shaq still seems to be improving I think you pony up and give yourself another year to evaluate him.. They also seem to have the money to spare.. The Bills would definitely be overpaying at 10/11 mil for a DE not particularly good at rushing the passer, but he's 24 years old and seems to be gaining confidence. Maybe the pass rush will come with time. I still don't trust him enough to give out a long term deal even if it would save us $. That's why I'd lean towards picking up that extension with no future liability if it doesn't go well in 2020. Edited November 13, 2018 by LSHMEAB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 It’s hard to justify paying some these guys when McDermott rotates his line so much. I think he’s done a great job in run support and containment, but his pass rush doesn’t really jump off the page. Usually, as a outside lineman, you need to have the sack number to get paid. Between the rotation, paying Murphy and Hughes, I don’t know how you can have 30 mil locked up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: It’s hard to justify paying some these guys when McDermott rotates his line so much. I think he’s done a great job in run support and containment, but his pass rush doesn’t really jump off the page. Usually, as a outside lineman, you need to have the sack number to get paid. Between the rotation, paying Murphy and Hughes, I don’t know how you can have 30 mil locked up there. I guess we will see how Beane is at drafting late round gems to keep the cost of the DL reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 We're all guilty of it. Patience is a virtue lost on Bills fans - for good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Zay has turned into a decent #2 WR ... he's a helluva lot better than his rookie campaign. Shaq has improved as well and I would rather have him on the field at this point than the oft injured Murphy. TB12 sucks boys and girls ... Stay away from the steroids. Is anyone else wondering how quickly Barkley develop chemistry with Zay? They were connecting all day Sunday. Josh and NP had all season and don't have that feel with Zay at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: We're all guilty of it. Patience is a virtue lost on Bills fans - for good reason. Wouldn’t cry if we still had Goodwin and Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 46 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Takes a real man to fess up - good on you Shaq has been a revelation since Murphy went down. Hoping we can see a 4 man pass rush of Murphy/shaq/zo and Jerry get after Brady in a few weeks A healthy Murphy would really help things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I don't think it's unrealistic to think Lawson was right there waiting to be certified as a bust. He was injured his rookie year, didn't do much of anything his sophomore season either. Now he's finally developing into a solid NFL player and that's great. But it wasn't set in stone I didn't think he'd make the roster this year, i figured since he was a Whaley pick he would be traded for at best a 4th round pick and we'd be done. Glad I was wrong. I hate being right when it comes to failings at draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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