IDBillzFan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Fires said: LOL... my son lives in Lenoir via New Jersey. He has an Italian last name (not the same as mine). I'm sure he can relate. BTW, I laugh every time I see Fabios commercials on TV and remember your story . The board was fun back then. Now it's just a line of people wanting to gut the team with every incomplete pass. I blame the shut down of BBMB. Your son is likely learning what I learned quickly: there are three kinds of people they don't like in that neck of the woods: Italians, people from the North, and Italians from the North. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Helpmenow said: Central Valley is again similar to Carolinas what? The mountains of California topographically are similar.to the mountains of North Carolina. Is that not understandable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: The board was fun back then. Now it's just a line of people wanting to gut the team with every incomplete pass. I blame the shut down of BBMB. Your son is likely learning what I learned quickly: there are three kinds of people they don't like in that neck of the woods: Italians, people from the North, and Italians from the North. Careful! You might get fired for a comment like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fires Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: The board was fun back then. Now it's just a line of people wanting to gut the team with every incomplete pass. I blame the shut down of BBMB. Your son is likely learning what I learned quickly: there are three kinds of people they don't like in that neck of the woods: Italians, people from the North, and Italians from the North. Add people from Florida to that list.... Fortunately I was born with a lot of Appalachian blood in me.. Even though my 15th Great grandmother was an Italian princess. I spent several years in Central PA . Appalachian country. Met one of my neighbors in NC when I went down his no trespassing marked driveway on my 4 wheeler. Belligerent at 1st but by the time I left he was offering shine and invited me back... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: The mountains of California topographically are similar.to the mountains of North Carolina. Is that not understandable? When I first saw the Smokies, I thought "Gee, these look just like the High Sierra!" Or was it the Cascades? Those volcanoes are pretty sweet. Nah, that can't be it. I mean, there are dozens of mountain ranges in California, each very different than another. But yeah, let's go with that, they are "topographically similar". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 8 hours ago, KD in CA said: Oh yeah, kids have had inside recess, lunch, etc since Thursday. They're all going stir crazy. It doesn't smell smoky anymore but you can tell the air is dirty. Your home should be spotless...teach them about the days of depression,when children went to bed soon after the sun set...candles were expensive. TV -off Internet- off Radio-PBS only But I guess....that would be considered child abuse these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 45 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Your home should be spotless...teach them about the days of depression,when children went to bed soon after the sun set...candles were expensive. TV -off Internet- off Radio-PBS only But I guess....that would be considered child abuse these days... And a transistor radio under the pillow to catch the Sabres playing on the West Coast! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: And a transistor radio under the pillow to catch the Sabres playing on the West Coast! ? Straight up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) This is what perplexes me: "With embers raining down in what Hawks likened to snowflakes in a blizzard, they sought shelter in a house and prepared to ride it out. One of the four paramedics was able to get in the home’s garage through a doggie door and unlock the door, and the four patients were moved inside, he said. There were also three nurses. "What I told everyone: ‘We’re going to ride the fire out here and we need to protect this home,’ Hawks said Tuesday. "You know, this is our Fort Knox, basically." Paramedics began clearing pine needles from around the home and from the gutter of the roof. If the house ended up catching fire, Hawk said they were prepared to enter the cul-de-sac which was an open area to ride out the fire." You would think that people would stay on top of their house, morning noon and night living in fire country. Why is there a build up of debris in gutters and around wooden structure. Unless the pine needles just accumulated? Simply, houses too embedded in the woods? EDIT: Ambulance caught fire and they had to hunker down. Edited November 14, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 There's a thing now, called FireScaping, where what plants you have and how/where they are planted can help prevent your home from burning down.... http://www.unce.unr.edu/publications/files/ho/2001/fs0133.pdf https://www.houselogic.com/by-room/yard-patio/landscaping-design-protects-home-from-wildfire/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Just Jack said: There's a thing now, called FireScaping, where what plants you have and how/where they are planted can help prevent your home from burning down.... http://www.unce.unr.edu/publications/files/ho/2001/fs0133.pdf https://www.houselogic.com/by-room/yard-patio/landscaping-design-protects-home-from-wildfire/ That's always been a thing ??♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: That's always been a thing ??♂️ Yeah... Don't build a wooden structure in the woods. And IFF You do. You maintain it. Clear cut the trees, vegetation away. Puerto Rico caught flak for not maintaining... Why can't SoCal? Honorable mention goes to: 1. Cape Cod House in Florida Conversely: 2. Flat Roofed House in Cape Cod 3. Basemented House in Flood Zone Conversely: 4. Non-Basemented House in Tornado Ally Anyway... Stucco and tile roofs are a marvelous invention for a place like Malibu. They have the do-re-me. "Here come those Santa Ana winds again We'll jog with show folk on the sand Drink kirschwasser from a shell..." I know people are dying, losing everything. I am sympathetic. But, they don't have to be dying, losing everything. Especially the ones w/resources. I'd like to see the structures that dodged this calamity... Edited November 14, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 16 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Popped inside. And not filled with water. Anyway... Nobody is addressing why they aren't clearing growth every 30-50 years. If they rotated around, it's constant maintenance of new growth and clearing old growth. I would rather spend the $$$$ that way then letting the forests go to pot and spend copious amounts on fire suppression. The fires aren't helping global warming! Vicious circle. Why in last 30 years are we not clearing forests? It's either that or stop the people from moving there! With less people, let it go native and burn. The many simply can't live there and let it go native. Too much risk. Why should other's in far away places bear the burden for the selfishness. Let it burn and nobody move back. You hit the nail on the head IMO. That's the reason these fires turn into the apocalyptic infernos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-abcarian-sonoma-fire-20171012-htmlstory.html Girlfriend told me about this from a few years ago. Couple survived in a swimming pool for 6 hours during fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, dpberr said: You hit the nail on the head IMO. That's the reason these fires turn into the apocalyptic infernos. Yet... Thy don't want to clear cut a plan. It ruins the enviro hippies' "aesthetics." They don't want to bring any economic value to that forest floor with regards to a natural resource, so they will let the wood dry out and combust. The economic interest becomes zero not logging and focuses around aesthetic and natural habitat for God's critters. Without good human stewardship, those perish in these volatile and cataclysmic events. Just blame global warming. The people in Bangor, Maine will rally around and help solve the California fire problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Boyst62 said: http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-abcarian-sonoma-fire-20171012-htmlstory.html Girlfriend told me about this from a few years ago. Couple survived in a swimming pool for 6 hours during fire. There were several stories of people who survived the Napa/Sonoma fires last year that way. Some of those fires exploded within minutes in the middle of the night. People had literally minutes to react. Not quite the same as blowing off hurricane warnings for a week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 47 minutes ago, KD in CA said: There were several stories of people who survived the Napa/Sonoma fires last year that way. Some of those fires exploded within minutes in the middle of the night. People had literally minutes to react. Not quite the same as blowing off hurricane warnings for a week. Properly built homes for the location, geography & climate... Have no problems: https://abcnews.go.com/US/mans-concrete-home-survives-raging-wildfire-washington/story?id=33286398 https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-house-that-can-withstand-a-wildfire-300724958.html http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/06/11/green.building.material/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Properly built homes for the location, geography & climate... Have no problems: https://abcnews.go.com/US/mans-concrete-home-survives-raging-wildfire-washington/story?id=33286398 https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-house-that-can-withstand-a-wildfire-300724958.html http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/06/11/green.building.material/index.html I'mma build my house out of fire. So when them fires comes i can't get no fire burning down my house because my house be all the fire. Issa be hott. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Look liberal celebrities getting behind gun rights: https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/entertainment/pinks-husband-carey-hart-delivers-threatening-message-wildfire-looters-celebs-like-shannen-doherty-fight-protect-homes-180356301.html Yeah... They are all California libs when it comes to the environment, etc... But come looting their own private Idaho and it's shoot to kill... https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/pink-is-raising-her-kids-genderneutral-and-says-trump-is-fing-unbelievable/news-story/6936453f7186357ed8a277e224ad8575 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Properly built homes for the location, geography & climate... Have no problems: https://abcnews.go.com/US/mans-concrete-home-survives-raging-wildfire-washington/story?id=33286398 https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-house-that-can-withstand-a-wildfire-300724958.html http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/06/11/green.building.material/index.html But an earthquake is another story. Tile roofs a no-no in quake prone areas. Edited November 15, 2018 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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