plenzmd1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Are Trump's deeds racist? never said they were..show me where i said that. I said his tweet was racist...over and over and over again. Have never said Trump was racist either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: never said they were..show me where i said that. I said his tweet was racist...over and over and over again. Have never said Trump was racist either So, you agree then that Trump is not a racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: So, you agree then that Trump is not a racist? where you been s? I have never, ever, never said Trump was racist..i said this tweet was racist, and unlike most of you all, i listened to folks like @Buffalo_Gal and @Deranged Rhino and others who convinced me it was done for political advantage. and BTW, i have never said or believe any Trump supporter, at least the ones i know and 99.95 on here, are racist The argument than becomes is that a tactic we are all comfortable with now..all's fair in love and elections ya know Edited July 20, 2019 by plenzmd1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: He said they were from other countries. Then in the next sentence he said they should go back to those places. But according to the Trump apologists, his clearly wrong statement in the first sentence has zero relation to the second sentence. Haha haha. The words are not that hard to read. BG posted them above. and then in the next sentence he said they should come back. haha haha the words are not hard to read, they were posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: where you been s? I have never, ever, never said Trump was racist..i said this tweet was racist, and unlike most of you all, i listened to folks like @Buffalo_Gal and @Deranged Rhino and others who convinced me it was done for political advantage. and BTW, i have never said or believe any Trump supporter, at least the ones i know and 99.95 on here, are racist The argument than becomes is that a tactic we are all comfortable with now..all's fair in love and elections ya know So, do you consider calling someone a "brown shirt" is the equivalent of calling someone racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: So, do you consider calling someone a "brown shirt" is the equivalent of calling someone racist? I said you all should wear brown shirts ..so you can recognize each other in the mall, and at bars.. and on how days like today will keep the sun of you? How did you take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Good sarcasm is an art. There are very few artists here. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: ahh , I got it. Now i need to take most of the tweet literally, but understand when he said the squad he was really only talking about one of them..so don't take that part literally. The mental gymnastics yall go through to never say a bad word about this dude.. and do please point out which part of "american Principles " they dislike....show me some real ass quotes and clips.. and not talking points . You can find those quotes and clips for yourself , as “ the crew” are media darlings. There is not shortage, but you must see for yourself if their ideas and statements are concerning and contrary to American principles of government( plus mind boggling to boot ) Even if you lump them all into the tweet, where is the “ racism” ? A place is not race. It can have a socialist culture, which is really the issue here. As for Trump, you paint with a broad brush. There is plenty to criticize about him , but the lefty siren call of “ racism” at every turn is propaganda. They need better ideas ( the bar is extremely low right now) and a better candidate. Not more phony outrage. Trump had to have been the most easily defeatable candidate for the Dems in decades. 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I said you all should wear brown shirts ..so you can recognize each other in the mall, and at bars.. and on how days like today will keep the sun of you? How did you take it? I love the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I said you all should wear brown shirts ..so you can recognize each other in the mall, and at bars.. and on how days like today will keep the sun of you? How did you take it? Not happening. I look horrible in brown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Not happening. I look horrible in brown. I take it you didn't make a good Brownie Scout? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I love brown shirts, I have several.................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: You can find those quotes and clips for yourself , as “ the crew” are media darlings. There is not shortage, but you must see for yourself if their ideas and statements are concerning and contrary to American principles of government( plus mind boggling to ??? I knew that was coming..cause they arent out there! Do they have some whacky ass ideas like Green New Deal? Yep. Is aboloshing ICE idiotic? Prolly so. Those are policies, not principles. Ya know at one point, one senator just about beat another to death on the Senate floor in 1856 for saying the following Quote Senator Butler has chosen a mistress. I mean the harlot, slavery but alls good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I said you all should wear brown shirts ..so you can recognize each other in the mall, and at bars.. and on how days like today will keep the sun of you? How did you take it? Now that I understand that you just had our best interests at heart I take back those thoughts I had of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Now that I understand that you just had our best interests at heart I take back those thoughts I had of you. my only point was there are phrases out there that mean something , that truly offend when not taken literally. There is nothing wrong , if taken literally, saying Trump supporters should wear brown shirts..but collectively as a people we understand the true nature of that statement. Same with y"ou should go back from where you came" . That was my only point..now lets hug it out..i love all you guys!!! 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: Good sarcasm is an art. There are very few artists here. . while i liked this post..i have no clue if it was a compliment or a dig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: while i liked this post..i have no clue if it was a compliment or a dig? ?️ ⛏️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, B-Man said: ?️ ⛏️ ? had a bad feeling bout that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: never said they were..show me where i said that. I said his tweet was racist...over and over and over again. Have never said Trump was racist either How can a tweet be racist but its author isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, BillsFanNC said: How can a tweet be racist but its author isn't? when used as a political tactic.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 The President did not say the Squad should be SENT back to other countries. He said if they don’t like it here maybe they should CHOOSE to go back on their own. The same could be said for a white person from Toronto. There’s nothing racist about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 20 hours ago, Whatnot78 said: Finish what he said in the tweet. He says then come back and tell us how to fix the issues. Everyone seems to ignore that part My main problem with the tweet is he assumed the squad were from other countries and I doubt he says that if they weren't minorities. If it was really about ideology why would he say go back to YOUR countries? I doubt he tells Bernie Sanders to go back to his country even though he has the same ideology. So, there's two ways to read that tweet in my mind. The first is being a xenophobic trope designed to both have Dems in Congress defend them when they were trying to distance themselves from "The Squad" and to excite the small sliver of his base that are xenophobic (hence the "send her back" chants at his rally). He knew that three of the four were born here and also knew he could clarify what he said and his fans/sycophants would say he really meant if you don't like living here you can leave. The more likely explanation is just ignorance on his part not knowing three were born here which is consistent with Trump who says and tweets a lot of stupid crap on subjects he doesn't know much about, but the purpose of the tweet was to highlight the radical base of the Democratic party. This seems far more likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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