Fadingpain Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) On 11/6/2018 at 1:22 PM, Lurker said: Because 'score-a-TD-every-drive' football is BORING... You and maybe seven other people in the world think that way. The Rams/Saints game is widely regarded as the crowning jewel of the NFL season so far and is precisely the brand of football the NFL, the teams, and 99.999% of all fans want to see in 2018. You are certainly entitled to your opinion of it as being boring, but please acknowledge that your opinion is irrelevant amidst today's landscape and furthermore, please be aware that the team which can always get that last score in a wild shootout is the team that is going to win most of the time in today's league. If a team doesn't have one hell of a good passing QB and a creative offense, it's going nowhere. I'll make a bold prediction: when the season is over for all but 4 teams in January, you'll see that the teams still playing football can all score points at will. You know, playing "boring" football. Edited November 10, 2018 by Fadingpain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 10:18 AM, Mr. WEO said: This "break, don't bend" D is not so great. 7th worst in points allowed. One of the reasons the defense has allowed so many points is because it is on the field so much. Our offense is a three and out machine not giving it a break. Upgrading the offense will upgrade the defense. If this regime doesn't primarily focus on upgrading the offense this offseason then it will be making a big mistake. We have the cap and draft capital to get it done. I'm confident that it will be done because it would be irrational not to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 This thinking by McDermott is the number one reason I believe that they should just fire the guy, no matter that I still think he's a good coach in most other ways, as long as he's stubborn and stuck on defense 1st, we'll always be losers under him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) Dude's an idiot. any team dominant on one side of the ball and competent on the other is a good team. We're not either right now but rule changes don't preclude an elite defense from having an equal effect on the game. The other team is playing the same rules. So if it's so easy to March up and down the field we're going to be able to March up and down and have a competitive advantage in stopping the other team from doing so quite as much. It's just relative to the league any given season if the best defense gives up 30 points a game and the league is averaging 50 then ya don't have to score 50 on a bad offensive night. You nab the easy 35 if rules begin to get that whack on offense. Eagles D did just enough to stop Brady to win with a clear competitive advantage compared to Pats that couldn't stop Nick Foles. The Jags played shootouts after the Bills because they were playing jacked up offenses with poor defense. The teams that win Superbowls are dominant on one side and top 10 on the other. Doesn't matter which way but it's recently been the better defensive teams that win anyway! Like every recent year! Eagles D > Pats D, Pats D > Falcons D, Broncos D > Panthers D, Seattle D > Broncos D, Giants D > Pats D. Doesn't matter if it's a shootout, Nick Foles beat Brady because they were subpar defending him. Jags had it on Steelers. If it's so easy to score that Bortles can do it, his defense is just as closely matched against a great offense yet slightly gave the edge to win. Falcons shootout likewise. Just have to be better than the team on one side of the ball than they are on your side. Edited November 10, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 1:05 PM, LSHMEAB said: They all drafted bad quarterbacks. idiotic thinking like this is why the Bills haven't drafted and developed a top rookie QB in over 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, greeneblitz said: idiotic thinking like this is why the Bills haven't drafted and developed a top rookie QB in over 30 years. Really? It's my fault? Sheesh. I had no idea I had that kind of power! I need to re-consider everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Kryk assumes that the way things unfolded was the way it was intended. Pegs was not going to let an outgoing GM make a franchise QB decision. The success of Mahomes does not mean Allen is a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 13 hours ago, JohnC said: One of the reasons the defense has allowed so many points is because it is on the field so much. Our offense is a three and out machine not giving it a break. Upgrading the offense will upgrade the defense. If this regime doesn't primarily focus on upgrading the offense this offseason then it will be making a big mistake. We have the cap and draft capital to get it done. I'm confident that it will be done because it would be irrational not to do so. The D is only 16th in the NFL at forcing 3 and outs. They need to become a 3 and out machine. Last week, the D was on the field for only 26 minutes. 27 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The D is only 16th in the NFL at forcing 3 and outs. They need to become a 3 and out machine. Last week, the D was on the field for only 26 minutes. 27 points. The defense is playing on a team that can't score. The offense is historically bad. They are on the field much more than normal. It is wearing them down. Snapshot stats don't tell the full story. Trust your eyes and use common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 13 hours ago, stuvian said: Kryk assumes that the way things unfolded was the way it was intended. Pegs was not going to let an outgoing GM make a franchise QB decision. The success of Mahomes does not mean Allen is a failure. Whaley didn't make a single pick in 2017, it was all McDermott. Whaley stuck around playing the role of scouting director, providing data to McDermott to make decisions. Allen could be successful, but he was also much more expensive. The Bills offense could use a couple of extra 2nd rounders on the roster right now. In the end, if you want to build your team around great QB play, you need some one other than a defensive minded Head Coach overseeing his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: Whaley didn't make a single pick in 2017, it was all McDermott. Whaley stuck around playing the role of scouting director, providing data to McDermott to make decisions. Allen could be successful, but he was also much more expensive. The Bills offense could use a couple of extra 2nd rounders on the roster right now. In the end, if you want to build your team around great QB play, you need some one other than a defensive minded Head Coach overseeing his development. You are right about Allen being more expensive than Mahomes at 22 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 This is a continuation of the same theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is a continuation of the same theme. So I get the obvious: McD is a defensive minded HC, and we have a vastly more talented and better performing defense than we do an offense. While this all would certainly make sense to coin this team a "defense first team" in the immediate moment, I'm not sure it's entirely accurate. Clearly with McD's experience, it was always likely that the defense would begin to take shape before the offense would. But considering we are no where near the end of this rebuild/process, and the offense is to supposedly be addressed this offseason, why put a label on what this team is now versus what it may be in two years? Given that amount of time Allen could potentially develop into a top passer, we could have a whole new OL and WR corps, Shady will be gone not too long from now and hopefully we have a sustainable replacement for him at RB, but we could just as likely have one pass heavy offense once all is said and done. The skeptics in us all have reasonable doubt for why this may not happen - but it seems odd to say that this is exactly what is the long term plan, and not just the short term strategy while they attempt to build out the offense. In a nutshell, if the plan was to rebuild both sides of the ball, and our defense was simply in a better position to be addressed roster/talent wise than the offense was (lacking a QB) long term, and we had just drafted our first round rookie QB that needs to be developed, I might also adopt a defense first strategy for the first year or two while he develops and they can fully build an offense around him. If we still see that philosophy then, that might be justification for these kinds of articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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