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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Sorry, man, but that cap thing is true. And pretty much everyone knows it, nationally. It's really only a few Bills fans arguing otherwise.

 

The reason they were able to sign Poyer and Hyde in McDermott's first offseason here was because they had already started a cap purge and knew they had to continue it the next year. Together those two totalled less than $10 mill a year. Those were not big signings. They were both very reasonable. For example, they signed those two for just over half of what they saved by trading Watkins.

 

They signed Poyer and Hyde because they felt they could do that and still get the cap in line so that by 2019 they would have a ton of money to spend. And as they have shown, they were correct.

 

They absolutely did have to do what they did. First because they had told the Pegulas at the interview that they would get the cap in order by the end of 2018. And second because it's how good teams operate. You occasionally see good teams cornering themselves if they feel they're in a Super Bowl window. Needless to say, we are not in a Super Bowl window.

 

And yeah, they chose a difficult path. The only more difficult path would have been all the others. There is no easy path from a team in cap trouble with an average lineup and no QB to being a consistent contender. A complete rebuild is almost certainly the highest-percentage way to go. But there is no easy way. Expect Beane to be here five years at a minimum unless the team absolutely self-combusts over the next couple of years.  But looking at their drafts the past two years, my guess is that we'll still see both of them here for another five years or so at least.

Nationally? Who nationally talks about the Bills besides when they completely embarrass themselves in a game? The national media couldn't care less about the Bills and usually never have a good pulse on what's really going on with the team. 

 

Simple question. How much cap room would the Bills have this offseason if they kept Watkins, Dareus, Glenn, and Darby and not signed/traded for Benjamin, Star, Murphy, and Davis?

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McDermott isn't going anywhere....

 

....well, for starters no one else would want him as their HC.

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17 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Nationally? Who nationally talks about the Bills besides when they completely embarrass themselves in a game? The national media couldn't care less about the Bills and usually never have a good pulse on what's really going on with the team. 

 

Simple question. How much cap room would the Bills have this offseason if they kept Watkins, Dareus, Glenn, and Darby and not signed/traded for Benjamin, Star, Murphy, and Davis?

Apparently, you and the national media have a lot in common.

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3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

Apparently, you and the national media have a lot in common.

Says the guy who adds nothing.

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31 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Nationally? Who nationally talks about the Bills besides when they completely embarrass themselves in a game? The national media couldn't care less about the Bills and usually never have a good pulse on what's really going on with the team. 

 

Simple question. How much cap room would the Bills have this offseason if they kept Watkins, Dareus, Glenn, and Darby and not signed/traded for Benjamin, Star, Murphy, and Davis?

Just some quick math but somewhere around 55 million give or take a few

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3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Just some quick math but somewhere around 55 million give or take a few

Assuming they resign or franchise Watkins. It's probably around 60 or 65. No where near cap hell and still plenty of money to make some solid FA signings. 

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9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Says the guy who adds nothing.

Tell us again how they got rid of Darius because he wasn't their guy (which doesn't explain keeping Hughes and others) - and not because he was a lazy, under-performing head case, who didn't perform to the level of his contract on anywhere near a consistent basis. BTW, the Bills' rushing defense has a better DVOA than Jax.

 

Talk about adding nothing....

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3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

Tell us again how they got rid of Darius because he wasn't their guy (which doesn't explain keeping Hughes and others) - and not because he was a lazy, under-performing head case, who didn't perform to the level of his contract on anywhere near a consistent basis. BTW, the Bills' rushing defense has a better DVOA than Jax.

 

Talk about adding nothing....

Your mad I see. 

 

The initial repercussions of the Dareus trade resulted in teams running up and down the field on us. Dareus was starting to play very well for the Bills before they traded him and continued that good play with the Jags. It was extremely odd and bad timing. They've since fixed the issue, but Star isn't the player Dareus is at his best. 

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5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Your mad I see. 

 

The initial repercussions of the Dareus trade resulted in teams running up and down the field on us. Dareus was starting to play very well for the Bills before they traded him and continued that good play with the Jags. It was extremely odd and bad timing. They've since fixed the issue, but Star isn't the player Dareus is at his best. 

 

You're still clamoring for the days of overpriced and underperforming former players?   Let it go :lol:

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35 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Your mad I see. 

 

The initial repercussions of the Dareus trade resulted in teams running up and down the field on us. Dareus was starting to play very well for the Bills before they traded him and continued that good play with the Jags. It was extremely odd and bad timing. They've since fixed the issue, but Star isn't the player Dareus is at his best. 

Not mad at all. There were times teams ran up and down the field on us when Darius was here. When Darius wanted to play, he was elite. The problem was that he never played that way on a consistent basis and was nowhere near the dominant player (again, on a consistent basis) to warrant the contract he was awarded. It may have had initial repercussions; however, IMHO, the long-term benefits outweigh those repercussions - and it is not even close.

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10 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

You're still clamoring for the days of overpriced and underperforming former players?   Let it go :lol:

 

 

Simply stating that fans saying them being in "cap hell" was the reason these guys are gone is completely untrue. 

 

And those days are still here brother. Benjamin, Murphy and Star are on the team.👍🏻

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2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

 

 

Simply stating that fans saying them being in "cap hell" was the reason these guys are gone is completely untrue. 

 

And those days are still here brother. Benjamin, Murphy and Star are on the team.👍🏻

Benjamin will be gone, Star is playing better than Dareus last two years with us and Murphy if he can stay healthy which is a big if had been playing at about that contract level.

 

And if all three of those players were gone, I wouldn't be complaining about it.  

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1 hour ago, Magox said:

Benjamin will be gone, Star is playing better than Dareus last two years with us and Murphy if he can stay healthy which is a big if had been playing at about that contract level.

 

And if all three of those players were gone, I wouldn't be complaining about it.  

You realize just because you don't get market value for every FA you sign and overpay a little doesn't make it a bad signing? 

 

You think the Chiefs care that they may have slightly overpaid for Sammy? 

 

 

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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

You realize just because you don't get market value for every FA you sign and overpay a little doesn't make it a bad signing? 

 

You think the Chiefs care that they may have slightly overpaid for Sammy? 

 

 

yet you complain that the bills overpaid for star.

 

and the chiefs didn't slightly over pay for sammy.  they way overpaid for him.  16 mill a year to be the 3rd wr is nuts.  they'll come to that conclusion too.

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