simpleman Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 9 hours ago, DefenseWins said: As I remember, Tom Brady was a 6th rd pick in the 2000 NFL draft. How can there then be 0% chance of drafting a "consistent starter" in the 6th rd?? By only going back to the last decade. Kinda selective though isn't it? As no saint said, how selective do you have to be to include Brady in your figures.? Mr. Irrelevant, Chad Kelly, was the 256 pick last year. Going back to 2000 is 17 years. 256 * 17 = 4352 selections + the yearly supplemental draft allocations. If we “arbitrarily” went back 17 years to make sure we included Brady, that would be .02 %. Even then we would have to “arbitrarily” decide to round all our figures to the 100th of a percent to account for Brady, rather than deal with whole percentages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, simpleman said: As no saint said, how selective do you have to be to include Brady in your figures.? Mr. Irrelevant, Chad Kelly, was the 256 pick last year. Going back to 2000 is 17 years. 256 * 17 = 4352 selections + the yearly supplemental draft allocations. If we “arbitrarily” went back 17 years to make sure we included Brady, that would be .02 %. Even then we would have to “arbitrarily” decide to round all our figures to the 100th of a percent to account for Brady, rather than deal with whole percentages. Brady was just an example... The "sample period" was players drafted between 2005 to 2014... So anyone drafted before or after would not be reflected in these "stats"... Of course you had to click the link and read through the article to find this information out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 who will and can they trade for a guy on an injury list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) On 10/24/2018 at 5:39 PM, TwistofFate said: Lol, no one cares about stopping the run?? I can assure you they do. If they run all over you they control the clock, control the tempo, tire out the defense, and keep your pass happy offense on the sideline. It's called grinding out a win. It's what teams who suck attempt to do to keep the game close enough to win by a lucky turnover. It's been the Bills motto for 20 years. Stop the run and you end up with a team like us, averaging 12pts a game, and practically a guaranteed win when you play them. Yo they meant no one cares about a running attack being the primary offensive focus/scheme. Every defense wants to stop the run, it's called playing defense. Regardless of what the BIlls have done, it's not how teams win in the NFL today. The run can be used effectively to win games in conjunction with a top passing attack, otherwise you'd see the niners, browns, panthers, and boys doing way better than they currently are. Like it was stated, even the Rams with one of the most productive, if not best RB in the league, are currently 12th in rush yds. If the way you win in the NFL is through the run - why does everyone draft a QB over a RB in the top 5? Outside of Barkley, Fournette, and Zeke, the last back taken in the top 5 was Trent Richardson in 2012...it's a pass first league at the moment, and the run helps aid the pass. Edited October 26, 2018 by ctk232 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 If The Bean got a 4th or 5th rd pick out of trading Shady I would be floored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I wouldn't be shocked to Shady traded, I think at this point if the Bills got a 3rd round pick offered they would take it and stack the middle of the draft and free up some more cap space for 2019. But I also would not be surprised if the team held onto him and kept him for 2019 hoping to maybe draft a RB in the mid rounds and have Shady/Ivory keep the seat warm for a rookie for one more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 He said the same thing last year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, ctk232 said: Yo they meant no one cares about a running attack being the primary offensive focus/scheme. Every defense wants to stop the run, it's called playing defense. Regardless of what the BIlls have done, it's not how teams win in the NFL today. The run can be used effectively to win games in conjunction with a top passing attack, otherwise you'd see the niners, browns, panthers, and boys. Like it was stated, even the Rams with one of the most productive, if not best RB in the league, are currently 12th in rush yds. If they way you win in the NFL is through the run - why does everyone draft a QB over a RB in the top 5? Outside of Barkley, Fournette, and Zeke, the last back taken in the top 5 was Trent Richardson in 2012...it's a pass first league at the moment, and the run helps aid the pass. Pass to score. Run to win. Age old axiom that pretty much much holds true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 By the time we are good, if ever, he will be gone. I'm surprised he is still here to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaywrizzo Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 12:54 PM, Iamkrgr said: Hopefully McCoy comes back this week and plays well. Would be nice to get him a chance at a Superbowl. We'd at least get something for a RB we really have no use for this season. Yup...trade him back to the Eagles....give the man a chance to be part of something besides this mess that's going on around here.....give us a 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 4:16 PM, Soda Popinski said: The only team i would trade him to is the Eagles. Why, who cares where he goes if you got decent value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) On 10/24/2018 at 1:20 PM, Another Fan said: So outside of Kyle how many players are then left from the Rex years if he’s gone? Lorenzo Alexander, Charles Clay, John Miller. But I suspect they will all be gone as well by next season, either due to retirement, trade, FA or release. That includes Kyle Willams too. The only guy I see staying for a while is Hughes. Edited October 26, 2018 by vincec 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Way to go out on a ledge there Schefty. Is that insider info or pure conjecture? I could have made that prediction four weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Trade him to KC for a 2023 conditional 7th Why should NE be the only team that benefits like that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 At this point, I'm honestly fine with it. I don't want it to happen, but I'd be fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 6 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Way to go out on a ledge there Schefty. Is that insider info or pure conjecture? I could have made that prediction four weeks ago. Guy is just doing his job... seems a bit harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I would support trading McCoy. He has played his heart out for us, but he get nicked up a lot and frequently misses 3-4 games per year. I like our depth at running back. If we could get a first or second round pick for shady, then pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: I would support trading McCoy. He has played his heart out for us, but he get nicked up a lot and frequently misses 3-4 games per year. I like our depth at running back. If we could get a first or second round pick for shady, then pull the trigger. I think if they got offered a 2nd it would happen in a heartbeat, more or less a 1st because no one is going to do that. More than likely though we are looking at a 4th imo if this happens at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 If it happens the best we're gonna get is a 4th with conditions of becoming a 3rd. I guarantee it lol...... and I pull the trigger on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, H2o said: I think if they got offered a 2nd it would happen in a heartbeat, more or less a 1st because no one is going to do that. More than likely though we are looking at a 4th imo if this happens at all. I think if they got offered a 3rd they would do it, let alone anything higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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