YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/10/23/18012496/buffalo-bills-snap-counts-indianapolis-colts-derek-anderson-tredavious-white-zay-jones-matt-milano Quote Interestingly, the Bills’ inability to stop the Colts might have been the result of some tinkering this week. Only two players of the 100% club stayed on the field the entire time. Tremaine Edmunds and Jordan Poyer are usually joined by Tre’Davious White, Micah Hyde, and Phillip Gaines. Matt Milano looked to join the ranks recently. Milano came closest this week, missing only one snap. Curiously though; White, Micah Hyde and Gaines all saw reduced playing time. White and Gaines appear to have had playing time taken by [checks notes] Dontae Johnson.The defensive line has typically aimed for a two-thirds to one-third split between starters and depth players. For some reason this week, none of the starters broke 55%. The shift to a roughly 50/50 split is a significant deviation from the usual defensive plan. Similarly, Taron Johnson saw a small reduction in playing time compared to last week, while Rafael Bush’s time increased. This likely means the Bills attempted to play more “big nickel” defense this week. big nickel has not worked well at times this season Edited October 23, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 The defense has looked pretty good, especially for having as bad an offense as we’ve had. Really strange to see us handicapping our defense by limiting play time of our best players. McBeane definitely have a plan for this season, and I don’t like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Brilliant coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 McDermott getting playing time for some tank commanders? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I don’t see why people think this defense is good.. maybe I’m wrong but they either play well or give up 400+ yards and 30+ points regularly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Seens like the game plan was bad and backfired. I’d be interested in hearing the reasons behind the tinkering though. daboll’s knowledge and experience with the Pats should be helpful this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Seens like the game plan was bad and backfired. I’d be interested in hearing the reasons behind the tinkering though. daboll’s knowledge and experience with the Pats should be helpful this week. Hope this is sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 He's either too beholden to "his" scheme or he's trying to outthink the room. Both are not good looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, dpberr said: He's either too beholden to "his" scheme or he's trying to outthink the room. Both are not good looks. He is going away from it, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 When did the “tinkering” take place? I’d like to know when these players started seeing less snaps than usual. If it was when the game was out of hand, then it would make sense that certain, key players were taken off the field in favor of getting them some rest and other players some experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Just now, K-9 said: When did the “tinkering” take place? I’d like to know when these players started seeing less snaps than usual. If it was when the game was out of hand, then it would make sense that certain, key players were taken off the field in favor of getting them some rest and other players some experience. Good point, they don’t mention that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 If they tinkered and it backfired why weren't adjustments made on the fly in the 2nd Q? I know the offense put the D in a bad position on multiple occasions but the D looked really bad on plays that led to scores. There were a few 3rd down conversions and plays that just killed the Bills and McD and co had no answers. Bad coaching to tinker with what worked and even worse coaching to not adjust out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: He is going away from it, no? Isn't "big nickel" his scheme? FWIW, the BN was a Fritz Shurmur invention. He passed it to Jim Johnson who didn't use it as much, but McDermott used it a lot in Carolina. "This likely means the Bills attempted to play more “big nickel” defense this week." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 who's stupid idea was that Mr Frazier? big nickel? More like a Plug Nickel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Good point, they don’t mention that Well, that’s kind of critical to the point the article tries to make. Until I know when and in what situations White, Hyde, Gaines, etc. were taken out, it’s just more analysis in a vacuum. Edited October 23, 2018 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Logically, it it ain't broke, you don't f*** with it. The D was on a roll until Sunday. was the tinkering done before or after it was clear they were going to stink the place up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 The changes could have been a result of them getting blown out and trying to adjust on the fly because what they were doing was not working. It isn't necessarily what the game plan was going in. Could have been, but might not have been. 32 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I don’t see why people think this defense is good.. maybe I’m wrong but they either play well or give up 400+ yards and 30+ points regularly They were good because they were top 5 in the league in stopping offenses and generating turnovers. They also got consistent pressure on the QB. What do you not understand about that? I'm assuming that they aren't top 5 now after a blowout loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I don’t see why people think this defense is good.. maybe I’m wrong but they either play well or give up 400+ yards and 30+ points regularly The theme is, they get torched by excellent QBs, who take advantage of the Bills aggressive gambling defense. Edited October 23, 2018 by PlayoffsPlease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Luck destroyed our zone coverage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I don’t see why people think this defense is good.. maybe I’m wrong but they either play well or give up 400+ yards and 30+ points regularly A lot of Bills fans think going with the 1970s strategy of winning 10-7 by way of great D and running the ball 40 times is going to work in 2018. They probably wear bell bottomed jeans with cuffs 2 feet in diameter as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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