simpleman Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) The owners are the ones that hire the HC and GM. Instead of hiring individuals that have the knowledge, the skills and the temperament to use the business's existing best assets and maximize them to build a successful team, they hire egomaniacs with their own grand plan to tear down everything and rebuild it over according to their own grand vision. In their hubris they cripple the team for years in their effort. In the real world of business where there is true competition and without all the special exemptions and their freedom from oversight and control of anti competitive behaviors those business would be long ago bankrupt. Ownership of an NFL team is all about ego and personal gratification. It is an exclusive club and not a business. In order to join and be a member of the club, you are expected to have to have exclusive control and not have a board or others to answer to. Is it any wonder the owners hire people just like them? Individuals who are infected with oversized egos and hubris who want to do it their way, not the efficient or correct way. Luckily they only have to answer to fans who don't ask tough questions or hold them to standards like a business's investors or customers would. Edited October 27, 2018 by simpleman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) Same reason new executives overhaul companies. They have certain ways of doing things and certain belief systems and people who don't meet those criteria need to go. A while back I read an outstanding management/leadership book(can't remember the name unfortunately) and one of the Chapters talked about before you got the right people on the bus, it was more important you got the wrong people off the bus because they would drag down and poison the mindset of any new people you brought in. Same concept...players who don't want to buy in or do things the way the coach wants them done have to be let go first. And then of course you have players who don't fit the scheme anymore or are now being asked to do things they are not good at, etc.. Edited October 27, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 So if it fails they can claim rebuild. If it succeeds they can claim the process is working. Win win.....1 more year of cash for retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: I totally disagree - in Chicago and LA - the GM was in place a year before the coach and started the roll over before the coach was hired. Both places kept guys that were working and traded both players and draft picks (lots of draft picks- including several #1 picks) to get the players on the current roster. Indy’s new GM immediately cut at least 4 starters from the defense to begin a rebuild on that side of the ball - the offense was never the issue - so there was minimal changes to that unit, but in 1 year nearly 50% change over on the defensive side - and my guess is if they miss the playoffs- more changes will occur on both sides. There is a difference between adding talent versus cutting good players. How many players cut by these teams have gone on to make other teams better ? The Bears really didnt have a good roster and blew it with several top draft picks. I think the OP's point is that teams such as the BIlls (and now Raiders) are cutting players who are good with the 'doesnt fit the scheme or process" excuse. Think Woods, Glenn, Dareus, Watkins. The fact is that the current regime has gotten rid of players who could have helped the Bills a lot this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 coaches that deliberately cut good players because they aren't "their guy" are flat out stupid. most likely it's that they don't fit their system offensively or defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Bible study Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 3:26 PM, CookieG said: Ego. Pure and simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 6:44 PM, BillsfanAZ said: If you finally got a shot at your dream job. To achieve your vision do you pound square pegs into round holes or find pegs that are round? The owner approves you to get rid of players that you dont want, accumulate draft picks, get your potential franchise QB, and address always being up against the salary cap. That would look a lot like what we see. Exactly! It's all about finding players that fit the scheme you want to run AND that will buy into the vision the HC has for what he wants to do. Pretty sure that Gruden will have extensive talks with whoever he drafts, picks up in free agency. If a HC goes to an already established roster sometimes all the players don't buy into his scheme and those players need to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 8:32 PM, MAJBobby said: He wanted a raise. Terry told him nope Not true. Terry offered him a generous raise thinking that would placate Marrones desire for FO changes and more power Marrone wanted. Terry was shocked Marrone opted out after promising to talk to him first and then next day opting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Hard to see how Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper don't fit onto pretty much every system or team in the league. Obviously Mack was a financial dump and Cooper probably didn't see eye to eye with Chuckie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 On 10/27/2018 at 1:28 PM, cba fan said: Not true. Terry offered him a generous raise thinking that would placate Marrones desire for FO changes and more power Marrone wanted. Terry was shocked Marrone opted out after promising to talk to him first and then next day opting out. Marrone wanted a raise and security for his assistants. Terry would not. Marrone walked. Simple. And then the Disaster cycle at coaching continues in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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