major Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Heard today that Jon Gruden has a two year plan to completely overhaul the raiders roster to bring in his own players. Why do coaches do this (our own included)? I’ve seen this done in my profession as well and it rarely works. I know some answers will revolve around new schemes and new players. But it seems to be more of an ego trip, in my opinion. So why do you think they do this? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Ego. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Nobody has a clue what Gruden is up to, him most of all 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Lack of vision and an abundance of ego. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, major said: Heard today that Jon Gruden has a two year plan to completely overhaul the raiders roster to bring in his own players. Why do coaches do this (our own included)? I’ve seen this done in my profession as well and it rarely works. I know some answers will revolve around new schemes and new players. But it seems to be more of an ego trip, in my opinion. So why do you think they do this? Just now, CookieG said: Ego. Good question and good answer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Football coaches are some of the most stubborn people 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) You need players that fit into your long term vision*. If it's a run heavy team and your vision is an explosive passing attack, yeah, you're going to let some guys go. *That vision could be flawed. Edited October 21, 2018 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, major said: Heard today that Jon Gruden has a two year plan to completely overhaul the raiders roster to bring in his own players. Why do coaches do this (our own included)? I’ve seen this done in my profession as well and it rarely works. I know some answers will revolve around new schemes and new players. But it seems to be more of an ego trip, in my opinion. So why do you think they do this? Probably because they just got hired because the last guy got fired for putting out an inadequate roster/system. So they tear down the old team so they can rebuild with their own framework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 It’s like getting a new girlfriend, all of the old regime has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Because the players they inherited don’t fit their schemes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 If you finally got a shot at your dream job. To achieve your vision do you pound square pegs into round holes or find pegs that are round? The owner approves you to get rid of players that you dont want, accumulate draft picks, get your potential franchise QB, and address always being up against the salary cap. That would look a lot like what we see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, CookieG said: Ego. This 16 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Lack of vision and an abundance of ego. And this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 So the last coach doesn't get all the credit if they win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Probably because they just got hired because the last guy got fired for putting out an inadequate roster/system. So they tear down the old team so they can rebuild with their own framework. The previous regime managed to be consistently mediocre. Should be able to tweak that with a few improvements . Why do people believe you have to be the worst in the league before you can be any good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 But in most businesses the goal is to win immediately and maximize profits. Overhaul makes both of these difficult for a few years in any profession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 build the scheme around the players you have 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Because Old School cosches are set in their ways and know nothing else. You notice McVay didnt sell off the Roster in LA, Nagy in Chi 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, jr1 said: build the scheme around the players you have That is a temporary thing. You bring in the players that fit your vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Ego and excuses. SO you can say things like "trust the process". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) The HC wants it to be THEIR team the one way to do that is exactly why they do Edited October 21, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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