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4 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

And you know this how? 

 

Because I live in NJ and my best friends are massive Jet fans and I cant go one week without them rubbing it in my face how they got Darnold pro-ready and we got a limpy unprepared Josh Allen. Also Ive watched and followed all the Jet games this year and they have these ***** local TV Jet shows with player interviews and behind the scenes stuff, hes always mentioning McCown

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28 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Because I live in NJ and my best friends are massive Jet fans and I cant go one week without them rubbing it in my face how they got Darnold pro-ready and we got a limpy unprepared Josh Allen. Also Ive watched and followed all the Jet games this year and they have these ***** local TV Jet shows with player interviews and behind the scenes stuff, hes always mentioning McCown

The hardest part of the Jets schedule is upcoming, just wait. And McCown is no where near the reason Darnold is doing what he is doing. The idea that these "veteran QBs" are great for young QB's development is entirely unproven, and utterly baseless. Sure, can Darnold or Allen ask them questions? Absolutely. Will they give them the right answers or best insight they have? Mayhaps, but more likely than not their own success, or really lack thereof, in the league is proof enough to tell me they didn't really grasp the game well enough to be anything more than a placeholder for teams looking for actual QBs, or just an emergency hotline if the starter goes down. You think there's anything McCown is telling Darnold that his offensive staff and coaches aren't? 
 

If Allen had a competent QB coach and OC willing to work with him, he'd likely develop more than any vet QB would do for him. Not everyone learns this way and you have to find what works best for the project you end up with. Darnold is anything but proven at this point, and so much can happen. The Jets are 3-3, not bad but certainly nothing to write home about. 

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The big question is, would Anderson serve this team better as a backup QB/mentor or as a QB coach ?

 

I hate to say it but I don't have much faith in Anderson on the field at this point in his career. IMO we need to sign someone like Landry Jones to replace Nathan Peterman, and we should do it ASAP.

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I think the idea of a player mentor is overrated. 

 

I just think at Quarterback you are either good or you're not. 

 

You either see the field or you don't and you take ownership and grow into the role. 

 

I think Anderson can certainly point things out, but Allen is spending time in the film room with Coaches right now. So Anderson, while having played, its not like Allen was lost in the wilderness before with no help. 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

So... to all of you that are dismissing Anderson, would you rather have had the Bills stay with two QBs and start Peterman vs the Colts?

Nope....but it doesn't mean that Derek freaking Anderson will be a good mentor ...or whatever you want to call it....He's had a sub par career....do we want JA around that ? Is that what we are reduced to ??

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7 hours ago, ctk232 said:

The hardest part of the Jets schedule is upcoming, just wait. And McCown is no where near the reason Darnold is doing what he is doing. The idea that these "veteran QBs" are great for young QB's development is entirely unproven, and utterly baseless. Sure, can Darnold or Allen ask them questions? Absolutely. Will they give them the right answers or best insight they have? Mayhaps, but more likely than not their own success, or really lack thereof, in the league is proof enough to tell me they didn't really grasp the game well enough to be anything more than a placeholder for teams looking for actual QBs, or just an emergency hotline if the starter goes down. You think there's anything McCown is telling Darnold that his offensive staff and coaches aren't? 
 

If Allen had a competent QB coach and OC willing to work with him, he'd likely develop more than any vet QB would do for him. Not everyone learns this way and you have to find what works best for the project you end up with. Darnold is anything but proven at this point, and so much can happen. The Jets are 3-3, not bad but certainly nothing to write home about. 

 

Your wrong bud. Have you never had a mentor? Ive had people mentor me at jobs that werent anywhere close to as good as me. But the experience and POVs she had really helped me develop into a stronger project specialist. You have to have the right Vet QB for that tho. Most dont give a ***** but McCown is well known to be a player coach and he will be coaching in a year or two. count on it. Watch all of Darnolds snaps and compare them to Jallens snaps. Ill share my tissues :lol: :lol: 

I hope the rest of yall can keep it real and not be homers. Darnold is much better than Allen is right now. Its not even close but JA has the potential to be the best of the group. Hes just not there yet.

6 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

The big question is, would Anderson serve this team better as a backup QB/mentor or as a QB coach ?

 

I hate to say it but I don't have much faith in Anderson on the field at this point in his career. IMO we need to sign someone like Landry Jones to replace Nathan Peterman, and we should do it ASAP.

 

I like that Idea. We could have Landry Jones start while JA heals, and keep Anderson to mentor him as QB3 and send NP to the PS

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2 hours ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Your wrong bud. Have you never had a mentor? Ive had people mentor me at jobs that werent anywhere close to as good as me. But the experience and POVs she had really helped me develop into a stronger project specialist. You have to have the right Vet QB for that tho. Most dont give a ***** but McCown is well known to be a player coach and he will be coaching in a year or two. count on it. Watch all of Darnolds snaps and compare them to Jallens snaps. Ill share my tissues :lol: :lol: 

I hope the rest of yall can keep it real and not be homers. Darnold is much better than Allen is right now. Its not even close but JA has the potential to be the best of the group. Hes just not there yet.

You're basing this on what exactly? Can having someone who has been exposed to something for longer than you have help to provide clarification? Absolutely, but that doesn't actually make the difference in terms of your personal growth. It can help your perspective, but not the end result. I'd be curious to see what McCown's ability to coach would be like - obviously there are players who coach better than they play, but to attribute Darnold's performance to McCown's guidance is a bit much, albeit my opinion. 

 

Lastly, never said Allen > Darnold right now? Confusing, but either way that disparity is clear. They are at very different points in development - with two VERY different organizations and rosters around them as well, and Allen most certainly needs the time. But for sure let's hope the potential translates into progress in performance.

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18 hours ago, ctk232 said:

You're basing this on what exactly? Can having someone who has been exposed to something for longer than you have help to provide clarification? Absolutely, but that doesn't actually make the difference in terms of your personal growth. It can help your perspective, but not the end result. I'd be curious to see what McCown's ability to coach would be like - obviously there are players who coach better than they play, but to attribute Darnold's performance to McCown's guidance is a bit much, albeit my opinion. 

 

Lastly, never said Allen > Darnold right now? Confusing, but either way that disparity is clear. They are at very different points in development - with two VERY different organizations and rosters around them as well, and Allen most certainly needs the time. But for sure let's hope the potential translates into progress in performance.

 

This is a well thought out comment. I think your downplaying the benefits of a mentor, knowing what looks and tricks and schemes certain defenses and DC could throw at you before hand is much more valuable to your development then having peterpick on the bench as QB2. I understand your POV but i disagree a million times. Having a mentor is like having a personal tutor. And thats an advantage id rather our rookie have, than not.

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