stony Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 hours ago, row_33 said: condo and rental apartments structures have the right to forbid smoking ANYTHING on their properties, including your own dwelling so as of today my building has forbidden the smoking of tobacco, pot, anything at all the only argument by the government is that it will: - get rid of the mafia (yeah right) - lower the deficit by taxation (just like lotteries) - keep kids away from bad elements (they have to be shitting us, right?) no thought at all has been put into this, it will be completely reversed shortly What is wrong with this? The owner has the right to dictate what goes on his/her property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 https://ocs.ca/ This is the website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah. I guess some air is mind altering. ? Also: I hope You are breathing when You are sleeping. ? I am not anti-weed. I am just anti-idiot doing weed. Which is probably like 98% of the people. I am also anti-malaise, which will surely set in. Most of the other adults I socialize with who use marijuana are very successful, intelligent people. Then again, I knew a lot of idiot stoners growing up who ended up being idiot stoners as adults. I guess if you’re going to be an idiot...you’re going to be an idiot. Legal pot or no legal pot. In this case I would say that correlation is not causation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, mead107 said: More tax money Not for everybody. Grins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Most of the other adults I socialize with who use marijuana are very successful, intelligent people. Then again, I knew a lot of idiot stoners growing up who ended up being idiot stoners as adults. I guess if you’re going to be an idiot...you’re going to be an idiot. Legal pot or no legal pot. In this case I would say that correlation is not causation. There are all kinds of stimulants, some worse than others. But pot is where the line gets drawn. Why can't adults make their own personal choices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Most of the other adults I socialize with who use marijuana are very successful, intelligent people. Then again, I knew a lot of idiot stoners growing up who ended up being idiot stoners as adults. I guess if you’re going to be an idiot...you’re going to be an idiot. Legal pot or no legal pot. In this case I would say that correlation is not causation. It's not so much how some use it... It's the message that it sends to the young ones. That You need chemicals to relax? Not passing judgement, but you can see why parenting, education has gone downhill into the wasteland that exists. The soul crushing world and the chemically induced state... Adds to the malaise. Maybe You aren't at ground zero, maybe You were, maybe You escaped... But it's a factor, especially in places that have poor working class. Trying not to be a buzzkill. I don't agree with prohibition either... But what the world, and especially children need is structure. High or drunk parents, etc... "Blowing off steam" from the soul crushing world is simply NOT the cop out message the Young ones need to see. The "little tape recorders" are always in record. I understand the need to relax, I am not a stick in the mud... Yet, the dangers are very real and the results are showing. At least from what I see. Give it time. I cringe at being this conservative... But that's the structure Youth should see. Sorry for going deep. Does Canada even begin to have 1/50 of the inner city problems we do in The US? What usually fuels this? Dependency, which then causes employment issues or employment issues causing dependency. They fuel each other. 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: There are all kinds of stimulants, some worse than others. But pot is where the line gets drawn. Why can't adults make their own personal choices? Sure they can... They are usually wrong choices. Why temperance took off so much in the 18th & 19th century... Production also dropped. Edited October 18, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: There are all kinds of stimulants, some worse than others. But pot is where the line gets drawn. Why can't adults make their own personal choices? Regarding marijuana, I agree. I don’t know one person who had their life ruined solely because they smoked weed regularly. I knew plenty of people, however, who are dead now because of alcohol or tobacco. Makes no sense to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Regarding marijuana, I agree. I don’t know one person who had their life ruined solely because they smoked weed regularly. I knew plenty of people, however, who are dead now because of alcohol or tobacco. Makes no sense to me. That's so myopic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: That's so myopic. Your face is so myopic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Your face is so myopic ? He he... Yes it is. I am nearsighted in eyesight only. I really don't know what the answer is but unleashing weed on the underprivileged certainly will NOT make them more energetic. That's My biggest concern. Maybe we just need sacrificial zones... And enter them, leave them when it suits our needs. Again... My biggest concern is dependency. Sit outside any gas station in America and watch what moves in and out. Once again, not judging but just looking @ the empirical evidence of what is taking place. Edited October 18, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Up to 4 plants There isn't going to be a CCBO? Can't see any Canadian government letting this opportunity go to fleece their citizens. Edited October 18, 2018 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: He he... Yes it is. I am nearsighted in eyesight only. I really don't know what the answer is but unleashing weed on the underprivileged certainly will NOT make them more energetic. That's My biggest concern. Maybe we just need sacrificial zones... And enter them, leave them when it suits our needs. Again... My biggest concern is dependency. Sit outside any gas station in America and watch what moves in and out. Once again, not judging but just looking @ the empirical evidence of what is taking place. I got news for ya, brotha. Legalizing weed is not “unleashing” anything on the “underprivileged.” They can already get weed really, really easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: He he... Yes it is. I am nearsighted in eyesight only. I really don't know what the answer is but unleashing weed on the underprivileged certainly will NOT make them more energetic. That's My biggest concern. Maybe we just need sacrificial zones... And enter them, leave them when it suits our needs. Again... My biggest concern is dependency. Sit outside any gas station in America and watch what moves in and out. Once again, not judging but just looking @ the empirical evidence of what is taking place. Exill waxes poetic on the ghetto. Take 24 ?????? Unleashing weed ????? Its been there for decades ??♂️ Edited October 18, 2018 by Teddy KGB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: He he... Yes it is. I am nearsighted in eyesight only. I really don't know what the answer is but unleashing weed on the underprivileged certainly will NOT make them more energetic. That's My biggest concern. Maybe we just need sacrificial zones... And enter them, leave them when it suits our needs. Again... My biggest concern is dependency. Sit outside any gas station in America and watch what moves in and out. Once again, not judging but just looking @ the empirical evidence of what is taking place. I'm with JH on this. I know lots of people who use marijuana like some people have a cocktail once in a while. It's not a gateway drug. It's not addictive, physically anyway. Grownups ought to be able to use it as long as they use it safely. Not to excess and not when driving or doing anything important. With the people you describe, marijuana isn't the problem. If it wasn't pot it would be meth or crack or cough syrup. And besides, it's not like these people will suddenly start smoking weed just because it's legal. It's pretty widely available now. The idea behind legalization is to get the millions spent on pot out of the black market. Studies have shown that in states where it's been legalized, marijuana use barely increased. That's because most people don't decide to take it up just because of legalization. So that argument is a red herring. Edited October 18, 2018 by PromoTheRobot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 47 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I got news for ya, brotha. Legalizing weed is not “unleashing” anything on the “underprivileged.” They can already get weed really, really easily. Of course. 44 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Exill waxes poetic on the ghetto. Take 24 ?????? Unleashing weed ????? Its been there for decades ??♂️ Of course. 37 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I'm with JH on this. I know lots of people who use marijuana like some people have a cocktail once in a while. It's not a gateway drug. It's not addictive, physically anyway. Grownups ought to be able to use it as long as they use it safely. Not to excess and not when driving or doing anything important. With the people you describe, marijuana isn't the problem. If it wasn't pot it would be meth or crack or cough syrup. And besides, it's not like these people will suddenly start smoking weed just because it's legal. It's pretty widely available now. The idea behind legalization is to get the millions spent on pot out of the black market. Studies have shown that in states where it's been legalized, marijuana use barely increased. That's because most people don't decide to take it up just because of legalization. So that argument is a red herring. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 High school will be higher now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I for one, think it's great that it's been legalized, and hope it all works out well for them. How has it been going, in the states where it's legal? My old friends back in Colorado haven't mentioned any really negative issues with it, apart from all the people moving into the state. We're supposed to have a public referendum down here in a year or two. I'm really interested to see how our parliament proposes to manage the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Maybe the NHL can stop playing their anthem? Nobody could ever remember the words before this, no chance now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Dante said: There isn't going to be a CCBO? Can't see any Canadian government letting this opportunity go to fleece their citizens. Ya they are coming in April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Most of the other adults I socialize with who use marijuana are very successful, intelligent people. Then again, I knew a lot of idiot stoners growing up who ended up being idiot stoners as adults. I guess if you’re going to be an idiot...you’re going to be an idiot. Legal pot or no legal pot. In this case I would say that correlation is not causation. this is it. it has zero to do with legalization, and everything to do with the person. i know a large number of professionals who do it, and unless you smoked with them, you would absolutely never know. 10 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I'm with JH on this. I know lots of people who use marijuana like some people have a cocktail once in a while. It's not a gateway drug. It's not addictive, physically anyway. Grownups ought to be able to use it as long as they use it safely. Not to excess and not when driving or doing anything important. With the people you describe, marijuana isn't the problem. If it wasn't pot it would be meth or crack or cough syrup. And besides, it's not like these people will suddenly start smoking weed just because it's legal. It's pretty widely available now. The idea behind legalization is to get the millions spent on pot out of the black market. Studies have shown that in states where it's been legalized, marijuana use barely increased. That's because most people don't decide to take it up just because of legalization. So that argument is a red herring. agree with all of this, especially the bolded. you don't exactly have to be a super criminal to find pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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