vorpma Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Kevin1778 said: With 4 minutes to go in the game the Bills punted with a 3 point lead. The punting game pinned the Texans to their 8 yard line. The Defense CHOKED and allowed the Texans to march 91 yards on 7 plays in less than 2 minutes. Had the Defense done their job and held the Bills win. When a backup QB making only 600k a year comes into a game trailing and gives the Defense the lead the Defense has to step up and do their job. They failed. Yes, the offense has let them down all year long, but with the game on the line and needing only one stop after an incredible punt, the Defense was carved up by a team that did NOTHING all game. When the game was on the line the Bills Defense didn't get their job done. They are the 21st rated Defense when it comes to allowing 3rd Down conversions. They don't produce when it matters. Elite defenses don't give up big drives when the game is on the line and they show up on 3rd down. Congrats, this moves into the top five for the most stupid posts ever; winner will be determined in January so you have time to excel and gain more ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 This is a new and interesting take. It's batshit crazy. But at least it's not bashing allen 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Thanks for your thoughts, Kevin. If that’s even your real name. His real name is Nathan Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Refer to other post Bills D ranked 3rd !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 A single drive for a field goal. You're right, the defense is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I can’t imagine watching that game and finding a way to blame the defense. this is like the same Bills thing that has been going on forever. Have a good defense, crappy offense, and some fans blaming the defense because they give up a td. A non historically bad offense probably wins that game. Defense was awesome (and the Texans have a trash o line). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said: Usually a defense that holds an offense to 1 TD, has 7 sacks and 3 takeaways will win the game. What more do you want them to do? And as for your 3rd down complaints, Houston had a 23% efficiency. Maybe where you're from that's considered good, but not where I'm from. Peterman's pick 6 lost us the game, not our defense. Our defense has been lights out the last couple weeks. To be fair, Peterman's TD is also what gave the Bills the lead. Peterman giveth, Peterman taketh away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: So the Bill's defence choked because of one drive that was mostly due to a penalty Not to mention Hughes was BLATANTLY held on that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/opinion/bills-are-wasting-one-leagues-best-defenses Quote For a third straight week, the Buffalo Bills defense took another leap forward. Sure, they shut down the Tennessee Titans a week ago at home - impressive, I guess. Considering though, that the Titans were ranked 26th in total yards with a young quarterback who’s struggled in his own right, their performance against the fourth-ranked Houston Texans was far more impressive. Holding Aaron Rodgers and their high-powered passing offense to just 22 points the week before was also pretty impressive what they were able to do against Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings the week before that began a steady trend upward. It seems that after a tough start to the season against the Baltimore Ravens and Los Angeles Chargers, that the team who gave up 70-plus points in just six quarters is a team of the past. The Bills defense now ranks seventh in the league in defensive efficiency or DVOA (defensive-adjusted value or average). After seven sacks against the Texans, they’re now in the top-five in the league with 19 sacks. They’re top-10 in passes defended. They’re also at the very top of the league in fumbles forced. Individually, they have one of the best young corners in the league in Tre’Davious White – who followed up shutting down the likes of Stephon Diggs, Devante Adams, and Corey Davis – he held, who I believe to be, the premier talent at the position in DeAndre Hopkins to just two catches, 27 yards, two yards after catch and a touchdown when covering the All-Pro wide receiver. Sprinkle in rookie corner Taron Johnson, who’s been locking down the slot since Week 1 as both a responsible slot defender against three and four wide receiver looks and a thunderous run stopper who plays with physicality and technique – the Bills have a great tandem of very young corners. They have one of the best young corps of linebackers in the league, highlighted by Matt Milano in his second season playing some of the best football on the weak side in the entire league. He can defend the run and, more importantly, he can defend the pass in either zone or man looks. They have one of the best, relatively young safety tandems in the league that can play with versatility. Each of them can play in the box and as the deep third defender, which allows them to confuse opposing quarterbacks pre-snap. Then there’s the front four. You have Jerry Hughes playing the best football of his career and Trent Murphy showing why the Bills' front office invested in him in the offseason. Kyle Williams is playing great football (2.5 sacks against the Texans). They’re getting after the passer and stopping the run, but more importantly, they’re healthy. The Bills went into their Week 6 matchup with no injury designations; which is almost unheard of. The bad news though, is that the Bills are wasting one of the more talented defensive groups in the league by posting historically low offensive efficiency numbers. At negative-51.8-percent DVOA, the Bills rank dead last in the league. For reference, the lowest DVOA recorded was the 2002 Houston Texans at negative-43.3-percent. The current Bills offense is a full 8.8-percent worse than the lowest recorded offense dating back to 1950. We’re talking historically low-efficiency numbers for an offense, which also ranked at the bottom of the league last year. At 26th overall DVOA in 2017, the thought was that you might take a step back to take a step forward in the future. They were the 32nd ranked passing team in 2017, and they’ve already managed to get significantly worse. Not only is the offense bad, but they’re also historically and embarrassingly bad. Most defenders of the team will say that we all knew this was coming and that we were somehow prepared for it. But to be potentially the least efficient offense in nearly 70 years of measuring efficiency – I can’t understand how anyone could prepare or defend that. The 2018 Bills defense is ready to win now. There’s an argument to be had that no defense is playing better than the Bills right now. The problem is, the Bills offense can’t seem to score more than 13 points and only when the Bills defense can create three or more turnovers. The good news though, is there are still 10 games for the Bills to dig themselves out of one of the worst offensive starts a half-century, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I stopped at the title. How ridiculous the D played lights out. The Offense sucked you know what. Stop with your utter nonsense and learn the game of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Who said this defense is rated at all or highly rated? Wait until they get carved up by Brady and the Pats in 2 weeks. THIS was against the Texans and Deshaun Watson. ===================== They are playing a lot better and they appear to be "coming together", however this is not some great defense. It might be nice to see what they could do with a REASONABLE offense out there for a game 0r 2... though Edited October 15, 2018 by Socal-805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Welcome back, SaviorPeterman! I thought you were gone for good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I can’t imagine watching that game and finding a way to blame the defense. this is like the same Bills thing that has been going on forever. Have a good defense, crappy offense, and some fans blaming the defense because they give up a td. A non historically bad offense probably wins that game. Defense was awesome (and the Texans have a trash o line). This guy is a Pats troll. 01778 is a zip code for a town just outside of Boston. 01778 is near Natick, MA. Maybe a disgruntled Flutie lover. Ignore him in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregil42 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Kevin1778 said: It is when the other team started on their own EIGHT YARD LINE. Again, the defense did not give up the lead to the Texans. Not choking. Allowing 13 points is not choking (It's actually called fantastic defense). Throwing a pick 6 on a potential game winning drive is choking. Throwing an interception on the ensuing drive is also choking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I blame Ray Ray for this loss. Wouldn't have gotten that TD had he held on to the damn ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Juice_32 said: Not a fair assessment. If that last drive showed me anything it wasn't that the D choked. It did however show that we should be taking more downfield shots (where the WR can actually make a play on the ball) because of the chance of picking up a PI call. The D played exceedingly well enough for the Bills to win that game. Right? A lot could go wrong, even just throwing to 1v1 matchups here, but we don't typically get those calls going our way very often anyway. Worth it to take more shots though, if the situation calls for it. In reference to the game, it was over had we been able to cover that deep route or avoid the PI. The fact we came back and held them to 3 there was ridiculous, and shows me more what this Defense is than "letting them drive the field." Was the PI stupid? Yes. Was it necessary? Given the positioning and where the ball came down, it was likely a TD if not. The answer is we need better secondary play if anything, but even they showed out yesterday versus a tough WR corps and QB. Helped that we got pressure against a weak OL, but you saw where our secondary fell short when Watson actually had more than average time to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Well, right now, this defense has to give up 12 points or less for the Bills to have a shot to win the game. It's hard to realistically win this way. 3-3 feels better than 2-4, but the L doesn't really alter the path we're on this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Well, right now, this defense has to give up 12 points or less for the Bills to have a shot to win the game. It's hard to realistically win this way. 3-3 feels better than 2-4, but the L doesn't really alter the path we're on this season. This team is a lot like the Seahawks team right when the LOB was starting up. Stellar Defense, porous OL, no-name receivers, and an unproven mobile QB (more so forced out due to lack of line play). The difference being Russell Wilson is very different than Allen, but the team comparisons are similar enough. Most of their games were 3 points at a time from both sides - the LOB holding a team to FGs and the offense middling it's way to a ton of FGs and maybe a TD. Usually it was the case that if the offense could put up a single TD and kick FGs with consistency, the defense would win the game. You saw final scores like 13-10, 6-3, 9-6, etc. It's not sexy or easy to watch, but they made function out of chaos. Edited October 15, 2018 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, ctk232 said: This team is a lot like the Seahawks team right when the LOB was starting up. Stellar Defense, porous OL, no-name receivers, and an unproven mobile QB (more so forced out due to lack of line play). The difference being Russell Wilson is very different than Allen, but the team comparisons are similar enough. Most of their games were 3 points at a time from both sides - the LOB holding a team to FGs and the offense middling it's way to a ton of FGs and maybe a TD. Usually it was the case that if the offense could put up a single TD and kick FGs with consistency, the defense would win the game. You saw final scores like 13-10, 6-3, 9-6, etc. It's not sexy or easy to watch, but they made function out of chaos. Its hard to win this way though. The 2000 Tennessee Titans gave up 11.5 ppg to the Ravens 10.3 ppg. They were historically great. But they got beat in the Playoffs. The 49ers of a few years ago were neck and neck with the Seahawks. But in the end, nobody remembers those guys. If the Bills aren't the best defense by ALOT then they won't be able to win games against good teams in the Playoffs this way. Seattle led the league in scoring defense for 4-5 years in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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