GreatComeback Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I was one of the big supporters for Josh Allen. I’d always preach that the Bills need to “give him time” and that they must have had some great reasons why they drafted him, despite the fact that much said historical and statistical evidence was against him turning out to be a great QB. I have to say though, that after today I have lost the faith that Allen will ever be a great QB. This is evidenced by the fact that that week-after-week he is not improving as a passer. The majority of high “highlight” plays are when he tucks the ball and runs. He continues to struggle with accuracy and he’s not completing long passes. We also are seeing him bail on the pocket when he doesn’t need to. He’s also taking a ton of sacks and not reading the field. On top of this, he’s struggling to throw for 150 yards the entire game and today looked like it would have gone the same way had he not gotten injured. Call me crazy, but I think after 4 weeks, we should see some progress with him as a passer. I honestly haven’t seen any progress. In fact, you can make the argument that we’ve actually seen regression his his high point at Minnesota. Yes the OL is not good (though there are many mediocre to bad OL’s in the NFL), and the WR’s might be the worst in the league. Still, did anyone else notice that when Peterman came in for the first drive, he was able to find receivers? He put together a drive that was probably more impressive than any drive Allen has QB’ed for weeks, maybe ever. I’m not saying Peterman is better, because I don’t think he’s an NFL QB, but my point is with better QB play, we’d probably see a more productive offense. Obviously the overall talent on the offensive roster is bad will never be the “greatest show on turf,” but they shouldn’t be as pathetic as they have been. Better QB play might actually win them 2 or maybe 3 more games this year. Beane and McDermott built a great defense. But I also feel kind of disappointed because unfortunately I don’t think Allen will ever be the franchise QB we hoped he would be. So I wanted to reach out to the Bills Fam Base to see what you are thinking about Allen. Does anyone else regrettably feel I do? Or do you feel that he just needs more time and better experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 No WRs No OC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) No, give him time. Happy to see the O-line playing respectable football the last 2 weeks for him. Let him keep learning and building. Edited October 15, 2018 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Oh, for the sake of pete. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 No, hell no. Although there are a few warning signs already (flashbacks to E.J.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, TonyBeets said: No WRs No OC Right but look at the offense when Peterman started. Same WR’s and OL. He made throws and moved the offense down the field. They looked better than they did in weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 NO All young QB's have up and downs. They don't track upward consistently as they play. Ask Carson Wentz and Jared Goff. Carson Wentz looked awesome his first 6 games then slammed into a wall. Jared Goff looked awful from the jump and never got better. Now, today, Goff is looking a bit better, just a year after Wentz looked better. Ask Derek Carr, who got a little better every year, then slumped. Ask Ryan Tannehill who had really good 2nd and 3rd years and then slumped. Ask Cam Newton, whose second best year of his career may have been his rookie year. If you lost faith in Allen today, you don't understand young QB's. If you gained faith after hating Allen because of the Minnesota game, you don't understand young QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, GreatComeback said: Right but look at the offense when Peterman started. Same WR’s and OL. He made throws and moved the offense down the field. They looked better than they did in weeks Are you being serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: NO All young QB's have up and downs. They don't track upward consistently as they play. Ask Carson Wentz and Jared Goff. Carson Wentz looked awesome his first 6 games then slammed into a wall. Jared Goff looked awful from the jump and never got better. Now, today, Goff is looking a bit better, just a year after Wentz looked better. Ask Derek Carr, who got a little better every year, then slumped. Ask Ryan Tannehill who had really good 2nd and 3rd years and then slumped. Ask Cam Newton, whose second best year of his career may have been his rookie year. If you lost faith in Allen today, you don't understand young QB's. If you gained faith after hating Allen because of the Minnesota game, you don't understand young QB's. Fair. Find the kid a real OC and if the HC is too stubborn to do it then find a new HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 A rookie in his 5th game with not much around him? Why is this even a question right now? People who say yes are mostly blinded by the hatred they had for him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Way too soon. Will probably lose faith eventually, but until that day .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Allen exhibits, incredible toughness , heart and a brilliant set of physical gifts every week. None of that has changed. He will be very good eventually, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Peterman, yes. Allen, no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 This topic in several variants is already under discussion in several other threads. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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