Matt_In_NH Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, targetweight said: Nope. Allen was injured. They showed him on the sideline, high fiving his teammates, trying to keep everyone pumped. Nope he was sitting on the bench emotionless after the TD. Other times he was high fiving teammates. 4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He said passes I thought. He threw three deep to Benjamin, one thrown away on purpose, one great pass caught, one great pass caught and called back. He threw a ball on third and long to Zay that was dropped. One of the dart completions to Clay was longer than five yards. Just because a pass has a good result does not make it a great pass or read by the QB. The one called back was out of structure and definitely showed the arm but I would not call that one great. The 39 yarder that counted was a nice pass for sure. Longer than 5 yards, like 6 or 7? He had some RAC....regardless it was routine. I dont remember Zay dropping one but I believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, mattynh said: Nope he was sitting on the bench emotionless after the TD. Other times he was high fiving teammates. Just because a pass has a good result does not make it a great pass or read by the QB. The one called back was out of structure and definitely showed the arm but I would not call that one great. The 39 yarder that counted was a nice pass for sure. Longer than 5 yards, like 6 or 7? He had some RAC....regardless it was routine. I dont remember Zay dropping one but I believe you. That was a great play and pass. Period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
targetweight185 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, mattynh said: Nope he was sitting on the bench emotionless after the TD. Other times he was high fiving teammates. To accuse JA of being a bad teammate is blasphemous. His teammates love him. You know who has a bad personality? Josh Rosen. And he's also an atheist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, targetweight said: To accuse JA of being a bad teammate is blasphemous. His teammates love him. You know who has a bad personality? Josh Rosen. And he's also an atheist. I didn’t do that. Reread what I wrote. I have it on dvr. He just sat there with no emotion when the camera went to him after the td to Jones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Anyone with an objective view of this game saw progress from Allen. He may or may not be the guy long term, but if you watched today and claim he showed no progress you are simply biased against him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: That was a great play and pass. Period. A good result is great for the Team but a great result does not mean everyone made the right decsions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Bills media reported that Kelvin refused to work out with Josh pregame when Allen asked him to work on routes/throws with him. Unreal. That obviously looks terrible for KB but you have to wonder if Josh has already lost the confidence of his receiving core. Those guys aren't the most talented bunch but their QB is definitely making them look a lot worse than they are. For someone like Benjamin who's in a contract year that's probably tough to take. Edited October 15, 2018 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdaddykool Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 6 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: He’s certainly not going to develop under this staff That is the crux of the problem. He should NEVER be starting this soon. It shows how deer in the headlights he is. They need to have him work with some QB gurus as whatever is happening now is clearly not working. We have seen this play too many times before with past QB picks. Too bad, as I like the kid and his attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, mattynh said: A good result is great for the Team but a great result does not mean everyone made the right decsions. Of course. But on two separate plays, Allen threw it down the field 30-40 yards right on the money and the WR caught it. Edited October 15, 2018 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, VW82 said: Bills media reported that Kelvin wouldn't work out with Josh pregame when Allen asked him to work on routes/throws with him. Unreal. That obviously looks terrible for KB but you have to wonder if Josh has already lost the confidence of his receiving core. Those guys aren't the most talented bunch but their QB is definitely making them looks worse than they are. For someone like Benjamin who's in a contract year that's probably tough to take. LOL.....just lol...do you really believe your own bull ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: Anyone with an objective view of this game saw progress from Allen. He may or may not be the guy long term, but if you watched today and claim he showed no progress you are simply biased against him. I'm sorry but I didn't see it. He was 10 of 17 for 84 yards and put 6 points on the board through almost 3 quarters of play. He also got sacked twice for a loss of 16 yards. This is inept offensive production. We just can't pass the football like 90% of the teams in the NFL. I wasn't expecting a star QB off the get go, but this is the worst offense I've ever witnessed in my life as a Bills fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, mattynh said: I didn’t do that. Reread what I wrote. I have it on dvr. He just sat there with no emotion when the camera went to him after the td to Jones. Could have been the fact that he was in excruciating pain at the time. Apparently he should have been doing incessant Tiger fist pumps with his bad elbow? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, djdaddykool said: That is the crux of the problem. He should NEVER be starting this soon. It shows how deer in the headlights he is. They need to have him work with some QB gurus as whatever is happening now is clearly not working. We have seen this play too many times before with past QB picks. Too bad, as I like the kid and his attitude. Wow! I've never ignored someone only 9 minutes after they signed up! A new personal best! Woo hoo!!! Edited October 15, 2018 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, jrober38 said: I'm sorry but I didn't see it. He was 10 of 17 for 84 yards and put 6 points on the board through almost 3 quarters of play. He also got sacked twice for a loss of 16 yards. This is inept offensive production. We just can't pass the football like 90% of the teams in the NFL. I wasn't expecting a star QB off the get go, but this is the worst offense I've ever witnessed in my life as a Bills fan. It's a team sport, rober. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 fouls...but were there 2 flags? Home cookin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 This Brady fella doesn't have what it takes to succeed in this league. Should we pick him up when the Pats release him this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: It's a team sport, rober. Sure, but the QB is the most important player on the offense and our offense is the worst in the league. The offense needs better players at a variety of positions for sure, but I don't think it's any surprise that we're last in pass yards, last in scoring and last in QB Rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I'm sorry but I didn't see it. He was 10 of 17 for 84 yards and put 6 points on the board through almost 3 quarters of play. He also got sacked twice for a loss of 16 yards. This is inept offensive production. We just can't pass the football like 90% of the teams in the NFL. I wasn't expecting a star QB off the get go, but this is the worst offense I've ever witnessed in my life as a Bills fan. I didn't see improvement either. Ask yourself this: how many of Allen's completions today came in the pocket? He seems to only be able to make a play once the play breaks down, and frequently he's just taking off and running before there's any real pressure. He's actually gone backwards with his pocket presence. Edited October 15, 2018 by VW82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdaddykool Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lurker said: Wow! I've never ignored someone after only 9 minutes! A new personal best! Woo hoo!!! I feel honored. SO what is your solution? Inquiring minds want to know. But yeah, i'm on ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Could have been the fact that he was in excruciating pain at the time. Apparently he should have been doing incessant Tiger fist pumps with his bad elbow? No he was not in pain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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