Mark Vader Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Augie said: Until you KNOW you have your guy.... They will give Josh more time, but (while he’s ours and I love him) he looks like what I expected. Which is why he should get all the time to grow as our quarterback. Drafting a quarterback in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round next year is a waste of time. We need to build our team around Allen. Unless we decide to draft someone to replace Peterman, I say forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike147 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Which is why he should get all the time to grow as our quarterback. Drafting a quarterback in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round next year is a waste of time. We need to build our team around Allen. Unless we decide to draft someone to replace Peterman, I say forget it. Which is why the team needs to draft, sign or acquire someone to push him. Force him to put in the work and improve and earn his place as the guy. If we don't and continue to have players like Peterman backing him up, then there's no competion and we are relying on him to have the work ethic to work hard and improve without that competition. Sometimes having that competition pushes a player far more than having no one to push them. The other reason to have a legitimate alternative is in case he keeps making the same mistakes and/or doesn't improve. That way we can make a change and not have to force a square peg into a round hole because we have no legitimate alternative like this season. Another reason to draft someone is if we hit on a prospect that develops to a level that they become a draft asset, we can always sell them for a profit like the Patriots did with Cassel, Brisset and Garoppolo. That way we get a prospect as insurance and to bring us future assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mike147 said: Which is why the team needs to draft, sign or acquire someone to push him. Force him to put in the work and improve and earn his place as the guy. If we don't and continue to have players like Peterman backing him up, then there's no competion and we are relying on him to have the work ethic to work hard and improve without that competition. Sometimes having that competition pushes a player far more than having no one to push them. The other reason to have a legitimate alternative is in case he keeps making the same mistakes and/or doesn't improve. That way we can make a change and not have to force a square peg into a round hole because we have no legitimate alternative like this season. Another reason to draft someone is if we hit on a prospect that develops to a level that they become a draft asset, we can always sell them for a profit like the Patriots did with Cassel, Brisset and Garoppolo. That way we get a prospect as insurance and to bring us future assets. We don't have that kind of luxury. If you want to sign a veteran quarterback during free agency, fine. We have our quarterback of the future, and we have to build around him. We need receivers and offensive linemen and more defensive depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, Mark Vader said: We don't have that kind of luxury. If you want to sign a veteran quarterback during free agency, fine. We have our quarterback of the future, and we have to build around him. We need receivers and offensive linemen and more defensive depth. Luxury? Our biggest hole by an enormous margin is QB. If we had a decent QB we'd have a really good team. Unfortunately we have the worst QB situation in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I honestly think Allen was not there first choice, but was the best choice for them. Personally I think they wanted Darnold or even Mayfield. I think they took Allen over Rosen because of rosens injury history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Which is why he should get all the time to grow as our quarterback. Drafting a quarterback in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round next year is a waste of time. We need to build our team around Allen. Unless we decide to draft someone to replace Peterman, I say forget it. He’s certainly not Eli. I get building around Josh, but if you’re picking at the top, never disregard a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 hours ago, peterpan said: Trade mCcoy for foles. It makes too much sense. If he walks as a fa we get a third round comp pick. We can tag him for a few years if Allen does develop. Sign him long term if he works out This may have potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Luxury? Our biggest hole by an enormous margin is QB. If we had a decent QB we'd have a really good team. Unfortunately we have the worst QB situation in the NFL. So we do not need help at WR or O-Line? Neither of those positions are a priority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike147 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: So we do not need help at WR or O-Line? Neither of those positions are a priority? Of course they are, but this team should not ignore the possibility of drafting a QB high if they believe they are a can't miss prospect and Josh Allen continues to perform woefully, and even if they don't take anyone high they can always consider a day two or three prospect. We aren't going to use every pick on a receiver or oline, so if someone falls pick them up. Obviously Allen was taken to be our QB of the future, but so was Jimmy Clausen when the Panthers picked him. They gave up on him after one year when they were presented with the opportunity to draft Cam Newton presented itself. Other teams have given up on players before. So we'd be naive to think our front office wouldn't do the same if they felt someone better was available that could upgrade that position and make us more competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Sure, in Round 3+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Fadingpain said: I'm the leader of the "Draft another QB" club, but your proposal is fine with me. The cries for a new QB will only grow in number and intensity as the season unfolds. Doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, jrober38 said: Luxury? Our biggest hole by an enormous margin is QB. If we had a decent QB we'd have a really good team. Unfortunately we have the worst QB situation in the NFL. Do you actually watch football games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 6 hours ago, COTC said: Should’ve took Rosen... Should have taken Mahomes. Kept some players and draft picks. This team is so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: Do you actually watch football games? Yes. We have the worst starting QB in the league. This team is going nowhere unless that changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: You can draft a backup project at round 3, dump Peterman, get a vet and hope knowing Josh is not the only Quarterback on the team that isn't an automatic loss might light further fire from him. Being a quarterback on a team that could be punting games and knowing Peterman is the only competition doesn't lead to the best competitive intangible development. That’s a good point but people thinking the bills are gonna pick another top 10 qb are delusional. 4 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Drafting another QB does not have to amount to "bailing" on Josh Allen. You are analyzing the situation in a very simplistic way and relying on what football teams have tended to do in the past, none of which is relevant to what the Bills could or should do in 2019. That would be the definition of bailing on Allen lol. So then what you are gonna just let Allen sit on the bench after losing all those assests? This is the real world and this doesn’t happen budddy. Edited October 15, 2018 by Rocbillsfan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 even if ja was the worst qb ever..mcbeane will never draft another qb while they are here they have shown nothing but sheer arrogance with their decision making..ie sticking with peterman and not even looking at any of the qbs that year watson mahomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 We should take one in the mid rounds...one who doesn't panic when he gets in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Come on! Alllen is one ultra bad sub away from being 3-2, against playoff bound teams. He is leading the team to wins, making plays, and learning on the run. Yup, not a pretty offense today. But Allen didn't make the big error, gave the Bills a chance; Bills should have won. No one thought this team was going to be good this year. They are, and Allen is clearly an important part of that. The Bills just need to find their legs on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, jrober38 said: Luxury? Our biggest hole by an enormous margin is QB. If we had a decent QB we'd have a really good team. Unfortunately we have the worst QB situation in the NFL. We have the worst WR situation in the league. Maybe in NFL history. This is far bigger problem than QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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